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Originally posted by sootfoot5 sootfoot5 wrote:

Perhaps the reason you and I feel differently is because your story identifies with a particular tribe whereas mine is so old that it is simply "Indian."  But then, maybe not.  Either way, I like the fact that you did what your conscious told you to do - that is exactly what I was saying.  I hope you will read my story and be honest in your opinion.  I think you will see where the big change from the original story comes, and I hope you will see what I did, in the end, was to use the Snake Woman legend as a hope for the future.  But maybe that isn't relevant or important...anyway, I'd be glad for you to tell me what you thought.  

Oh, I feel different completely when it comes to mythology. Any culture's legends and mythology have universal threads and generally aren't offensive to adapt or reference within the literary world. That's, like, Charles de Lint's whole career. I use old fairy tales and mythology a lot, allegorically, in my novels. It takes a different measure of sensitivity and caution to write about another race or so forth in modern reality-based terms. And I already intended to read your story once it posts ^_^ . It sounded really interesting just from the title and tagline.
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Originally posted by bleustick bleustick wrote:

Originally posted by sootfoot5 sootfoot5 wrote:

Perhaps the reason you and I feel differently is because your story identifies with a particular tribe whereas mine is so old that it is simply "Indian."  But then, maybe not.  Either way, I like the fact that you did what your conscious told you to do - that is exactly what I was saying.  I hope you will read my story and be honest in your opinion.  I think you will see where the big change from the original story comes, and I hope you will see what I did, in the end, was to use the Snake Woman legend as a hope for the future.  But maybe that isn't relevant or important...anyway, I'd be glad for you to tell me what you thought.  

Oh, I feel different completely when it comes to mythology. Any culture's legends and mythology have universal threads and generally aren't offensive to adapt or reference within the literary world. That's, like, Charles de Lint's whole career. I use old fairy tales and mythology a lot, allegorically, in my novels. It takes a different measure of sensitivity and caution to write about another race or so forth in modern reality-based terms. And I already intended to read your story once it posts ^_^ . It sounded really interesting just from the title and tagline.


Well, I have heard of instances where different ethnic groups have been offended by someone using one of their legends, etc., in a story/novel.  Frankly, I think they should be flattered so long as it is done tastefully -- now I realize "tastefully" is a matter of opinion, but then it is like obscenity, as the Supreme Court said, we know it when we see it.  Some white writers, I believe, are frightened to write anything but pure white stories because of this.   I know I've been criticized by the judges here for my portrayal of Southern blacks and the whites who interacted with them -- they say people just don't act that way.  I don't think they have lived in the Deep South is what I'd like to say to them!  

In other words, some people are always offended.  It goes back to my conscious statement.  Yes, some people don't have one.  But a person who does will know whether they are being fair and true to the original legend or myth sufficiently.  In mine, I tell the story of the original and then take it past it -- the original is very short.  I see no harm in that; it is "the rest of the story." 


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Old myths and legends would have altered massively as they were passed orally down the generations, making them relevant for the times they were being told in. This is true of western legends as well - just look at the similarities/differences between Ancient Greek and Ancient Roman stories.

The versions that were eventually written down are no more "true" versions than ones that never saw the page. So long as the message is consistent, altering ancient myths should be fine as far as I can see, especially if they are being given a twist that again makes them more relevant for modern times.

However, I do accept that I am saying this from the point of view of someone who does not come from a culture that has been sneered at and derided by others. Perhaps if I did, I may have a different opinion. 
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