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    Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 1:29am
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Honestly, the reason I didn't post my story was because I didn't realize this forum existed at first. I basically just paid for my entry fee on the main website and never looked at the forums. I think a lot of people probably did the same thing. Then, when I found out about the forums, I still didn't post it because I was afraid I might jinx myself somehow! THEN, I felt the forums were a little bit hard for me to navigate through. Everything seems tiny sms hard to click on and read to me. It took a little while for me to get used to the message boards. I didn't have patience to find out how the boards were organized a few months ago.

Also, I have a colleague of mine that proofreads my writing for me and gives me advice, so I didn't need to ask strangers for advice necessarily. I also had my old English teacher from high school look at my story. I felt like she knew me best, so I felt comfortable asking her to read it for me instead of asking people on the forums. 
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All valid reasons: I just like having someone read my work and comment on it as I never try and sell any of it, though I am nearing a self published book in the next year or so.  The forum takes up a lot of time too, which I have lots of, but for a worker bee it might prove too much time investment because generally the way you get feedback is by leaving feedback.
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Originally posted by sinister sinister wrote:

I'm sort of surprised at how few people from each heat actually post their stories on the forums.  Looking at the master list, there are very few heats that have more than 5 people with stories posted for feedback.  Each heat has, what, 30 people?  

In my mind, the forum feedback is part of the value for money that this contest provides, and I feel like you're kind of wasting your entry fee if you don't take advantage of it.  

All of this to say, if you know someone in this contest who hasn't posted their story for feedback, go poke them and make them do that thing.

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Honestly, the reason I didn't post my story was because I didn't realize this forum existed at first. I basically just paid for my entry fee on the main website and never looked at the forums. I think a lot of people probably did the same thing. Then, when I found out about the forums, I still didn't post it because I was afraid I might jinx myself somehow! THEN, I felt the forums were a little bit hard for me to navigate through. Everything seems tiny sms hard to click on and read to me. It took a little while for me to get used to the message boards. I didn't have patience to find out how the boards were organized a few months ago.

Also, I have a colleague of mine that proofreads my writing for me and gives me advice, so I didn't need to ask strangers for advice necessarily. I also had my old English teacher from high school look at my story. I felt like she knew me best, so I felt comfortable asking her to read it for me instead of asking people on the forums. 
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Originally posted by coffeeandcookies coffeeandcookies wrote:

That is wild Suave! Lol. They say you're not really famous until you have haters and stalkers, so that means you made it! LOL


Haha, hope so!
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That is wild Suave! Lol. They say you're not really famous until you have haters and stalkers, so that means you made it! LOL
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Originally posted by jennifer.quail jennifer.quail wrote:

You "copyrighted it for real" under US law the moment your wrote it. Contrary to legend there is no law requiring you register it, you don't have to put a little c-in-a-circle and your name on it, it is yours the creator's until...I think we're up to 90 years after your death? Unless you explicitly state it is under another sort of license it's yours. 

I would be curious to know who's stealing what and how they're distributing it, though, as I suspect if that can be proven they at least could get perma-banned from the contests. 


Yes, it is copyrighted when you write it, however some feel the need to go through the channels. 
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You "copyrighted it for real" under US law the moment your wrote it. Contrary to legend there is no law requiring you register it, you don't have to put a little c-in-a-circle and your name on it, it is yours the creator's until...I think we're up to 90 years after your death? Unless you explicitly state it is under another sort of license it's yours. 

I would be curious to know who's stealing what and how they're distributing it, though, as I suspect if that can be proven they at least could get perma-banned from the contests. 
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That is a decision I respect and can understand.

Be well in all you do. Wash your hands, and stay safe!
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I don't know of the plagiarizing stated by stephenmatlock, as I have not seen any posts about it before, and I am on the forums all the time over the last few years.  But, I will say this, I enjoy the forums and people reading my work that other wise would not see the light of day. If I am going to live my life in fear of someone stealing from me then I might as well live under a rock and never go anywhere. If a short story is such that you want to protect it, for time line, then maybe copyright it for real.  I will be one that always posts to the forum because it makes life just that little bit better despite the risk that maybe some black hearted person might do me wrong.


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Originally posted by ConsideringLilies ConsideringLilies wrote:

Last I checked, I was the only person in my heat to post online. It's too bad. It'd be great to see what other people came up with when they received the exact same prompt! Think of all the possibilities and idea
I do understand why some people wouldn't post. Honestly I thought it was expected of us since this is my first competition here, and really my first time writing. Maybe I would have made a different decision if I'd thought of it more, but I was so happy with the feedback I got and the feedback I got to give


I've been on the forums since 2013. I've always felt a sense of camaraderie.

Until recently. I discovered that an entrant was copying and posting / distributing the stories as their own, and another entrant was simply copying every story for their "own use."

So I've stopped.

It is ungracious to steal someone's work. It is ungracious to use someone's work without their permission. Early drafts are not for anyone to re-consume. They are the author's to own, and not for anyone to grab a hold of.

I am sorry that I can no longer find trust, but it is what it is, and I am choosing to own my work and to distribute in other ways for feedback.

And although I've paid to enter the last three contests, I ended up not even turning anything in--not because I do not trust the judges, but because my heart has gone out of this venue.

I'm still willing to give feedback here, as thoroughly as I can, and in full honesty that I will not copy or re-purpose the works posted here.
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Originally posted by ConsideringLilies ConsideringLilies wrote:

Last I checked, I was the only person in my heat to post online. It's too bad. It'd be great to see what other people came up with when they received the exact same prompt! Think of all the possibilities and idea
I do understand why some people wouldn't post. Honestly I thought it was expected of us since this is my first competition here, and really my first time writing. Maybe I would have made a different decision if I'd thought of it more, but I was so happy with the feedback I got and the feedback I got to give


It is always a disappointment when no one else post in your heat, has happened to me a couple of times, but then once in while you will get 6 or 7 others post and that's a hoot.  I would just take the low number in your own heat to read other heats of your genre - that has gotten me interested in such things as fairy tales, lol.
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