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Originally posted by PaintMeWrite PaintMeWrite wrote:

MY APOLOGIES IF I POSTED IT ON THE WRONG FORUM. I THOUGHT I WAS REPLYING DIRECTLY TO WHO WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.


You're not in the wrong forum, just in this instance the table read means something slightly different for the flash fiction contest than it would mean in the screenwriting sense of the word. 

In this case, the judges just meant for her to read it out loud to herself before submitting. 

I'm sorry if my answer wasn't clear. I didn't mean to for it to sound rude. 

Welcome to NYCM. I wish you the best of luck in the screenwriting competition. I entered it too. Hope to see you around the forum.


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Originally posted by PaintMeWrite PaintMeWrite wrote:

A TABLE READ FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF HAVING BEEN AT ONE WHERE THE DIRECTOR AND OR PRODUCER WILL HAVE A POTENTIAL ACTOR/ACTRESS READ PORTIONS OF A SCRIPT IN FRONT OF THEM, SPECIFICALLY, THE PART THEY WANT TO CAST AN INDIVIDUAL FOR.
 
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Originally posted by PaintMeWrite PaintMeWrite wrote:

A TABLE READ FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF HAVING BEEN AT ONE WHERE THE DIRECTOR AND OR PRODUCER WILL HAVE A POTENTIAL ACTOR/ACTRESS READ PORTIONS OF A SCRIPT IN FRONT OF THEM, SPECIFICALLY, THE PART THEY WANT TO CAST AN INDIVIDUAL FOR.


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A TABLE READ FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF HAVING BEEN AT ONE WHERE THE DIRECTOR AND OR PRODUCER WILL HAVE A POTENTIAL ACTOR/ACTRESS READ PORTIONS OF A SCRIPT IN FRONT OF THEM, SPECIFICALLY, THE PART THEY WANT TO CAST AN INDIVIDUAL FOR.
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Originally posted by plkphoto plkphoto wrote:

Originally posted by WriterByNight WriterByNight wrote:

I know for myself (and probably for Jen), I generally take an hour or more per story to give detailed feedback. If you tried that at $5 per story, then you'd be earning $5 per hour at most. So as a judge you would have to cut that back to 10 minutes per story to even make $30 per hour - and when they're getting the lower end of the fee, 5 minutes per story for $30 per hour… and suddenly you see why we get two throwaway lines from each judge.

I submit perhaps we have "Flash Judges" to match our "Flash Fiction" LOL


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Originally posted by plkphoto plkphoto wrote:

Originally posted by WriterByNight WriterByNight wrote:

When you do the math per story, don't forget multiple judges look at each story and this is per round. A significant amount of our entry fees does end up towards the judges. More if you progress to final rounds.


<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">I suspect when you subtract the expenses (advertising/judges/web guru/website/legal fees) the only way to pay more is to raise the entry fee - but then fewer people might sign up. Plus the people organizing the contest need to be paid.</span><br style="line-height: 16.8px;"><br style="line-height: 16.8px;"><span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Just a thought.</span>



I think that's basically true, though if you pay $55, and don't make it to later rounds, only $5 of your entry fee is going to the judges (maybe up to $10 in Flash, but I doubt it). I think they could afford to pay them a bit more per story. Especially as the only real variable in payment is for the judges since they're paid per story. Advertising, website maintenance, and the rest are all the same regardless of how many entrants. The only people who get more work with more entries are the judges and the person who's responsible for sorting the stories, giving them to the judges, compiling the comments, and sending out notifications.

My guess is that the price goes up with each round - notice how they have a range of prices listed. So for Flash: in Round 1, there are at least two judges per story and 1400 stories times 2 challenges, which is 5600 stories they have to pay for. They'd probably just do the lower price for those, so we don't get much in the way of feedback.

For Rounds 2 & 3 they have progressively fewer stories, so hopefully they have more judges reading each one and/or pay them more per story … and that's why the feedback improves in later rounds.

I know for myself (and probably for Jen), I generally take an hour or more per story to give detailed feedback. If you tried that at $5 per story, then you'd be earning $5 per hour at most. So as a judge you would have to cut that back to 10 minutes per story to even make $30 per hour - and when they're getting the lower end of the fee, 5 minutes per story for $30 per hour… and suddenly you see why we get two throwaway lines from each judge.



I agree - just thought it may not be obvious where else the funds are going. I have no doubt it costs more than is immediately obvious.

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Originally posted by WriterByNight WriterByNight wrote:

When you do the math per story, don't forget multiple judges look at each story and this is per round. A significant amount of our entry fees does end up towards the judges. More if you progress to final rounds.

I suspect when you subtract the expenses (advertising/judges/web guru/website/legal fees) the only way to pay more is to raise the entry fee - but then fewer people might sign up. Plus the people organizing the contest need to be paid.

Just a thought.

I think that's basically true, though if you pay $55, and don't make it to later rounds, only $5 of your entry fee is going to the judges (maybe up to $10 in Flash, but I doubt it). I think they could afford to pay them a bit more per story. Especially as the only real variable in payment is for the judges since they're paid per story. Advertising, website maintenance, and the rest are all the same regardless of how many entrants. The only people who get more work with more entries are the judges and the person who's responsible for sorting the stories, giving them to the judges, compiling the comments, and sending out notifications.

My guess is that the price goes up with each round - notice how they have a range of prices listed. So for Flash: in Round 1, there are at least two judges per story and 1400 stories times 2 challenges, which is 5600 stories they have to pay for. They'd probably just do the lower price for those, so we don't get much in the way of feedback.

For Rounds 2 & 3 they have progressively fewer stories, so hopefully they have more judges reading each one and/or pay them more per story … and that's why the feedback improves in later rounds.

I know for myself (and probably for Jen), I generally take an hour or more per story to give detailed feedback. If you tried that at $5 per story, then you'd be earning $5 per hour at most. So as a judge you would have to cut that back to 10 minutes per story to even make $30 per hour - and when they're getting the lower end of the fee, 5 minutes per story for $30 per hour… and suddenly you see why we get two throwaway lines from each judge.


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Originally posted by patsy patsy wrote:

I'll start!  BTW, does anyone know what the heck a "table read" is????????
 

"Dialog was a bit stilted as if people talked in complete sentences. A 'table read' and edit might help.........."



They just mean read it out loud when they say table read.

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