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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fioOxf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2019 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by sgspeed sgspeed wrote:

What I wish for is more Forum feedback on my script.  I was not able to read much of anything, so I did not get much at all. I have to say, I also feel like I'm not a big enough player in the forum to warrant as much attention, but imagonna try and change that!  

Hi there, sg,

I'll beta you, this weekend, if you like. I'm in the UK, so could probably beta while you sleep, or something. DM/PM me if you want my email :) It's definitely worth trying betas - makes it all feel less lonely, apart from anything else. It also makes you more visible in the forums, as your betas will probably pop in and read your final draft. 

Just whistle if you need me.
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Originally posted by stephenmatlock stephenmatlock wrote:

Originally posted by obicraig obicraig wrote:

I'm not quite sure what to make of mine. I felt like they didn't read it with any attention. I say that because the judges advice contradict each other and they asked questions that are easily answered by reading it.

For example, one judge said the ending was unsatisfying. Fair enough, we have individual tastes and maybe it wasn't, except for the fact they gave the reason as the main character doesn't have any new friends at the end. Yet that is the exact end! The final scene is my two characters walking away, deciding to become friends. 

Another judge said that one of the characters hasn't given enough "information". Are they asking for exposition? Shouldn't I be avoiding that?

Can anyone answer me this, can the judges respond to feedback? I have asked one a question because they gave some advice I'd like clarification on. I'm new to the game and didn't quite get what they meant by 'transitions between settings could use more explanation.'

Judges are people with human peculiarities and tastes. They don't produce consistent results, but the hope is, I think, that with three or four judges a consensus is reached.

If a judge misses a point that would take someone with time and commitment to see, then that judge, IMO, is not doing their job. It might seem like a lot of work to judge 40 scripts, but that is what they signed up to do and are paid for. You can give feedback on the judges, and I'd include that. You paid the same amount of money to join (more or less) as everyone else, and you should get the same level of attention as everyone else.

As far as info, be careful into over-reading into it. The judge might be saying "fit more information into this script by cutting other things," but the real statement might be "this story is too big for 12 pages, and you had cut things out for space that are necessary for story development." That kills me almost every time. A 12 page script has to be small enough to fit 12 pages.

I'd guess the same thing for the transitions. Maybe the scene jumps don't feel connected--which can happen in the early stages of a script, but should feel connected by the end, because you make them fit together logically. Or maybe the day/time jumps feel jarring, or the even the location switches (Int/Ext, for example).

This is a craft and an art, and it just takes time, IMO, to get all the pieces to work together.

Cheers, Stephen. I appreciate you taking the time to give such an answer.
I hope you go well in the next round.
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