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Topic: Writing Process
Posted By: A. H. Davison
Subject: Writing Process
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 1:32am
I'm curious what your writing processes are? How do you use the 48-hours? What was your approach for round 1 and how do you plan to approach round 2?



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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 1:37am
I'm in a PDT timezone, so I got the round 1 prompt at 9pm. I spent a few hours getting comfortable with my genre (Historical Fiction) and selecting a real location (prompt: a fortress) and time.

Before I went to bed, I had a handful of options for characters and storylines.

I slept on them and in the morning I had my favorite. I outlined my story, and spent day 1 drafting it. I let it sit overnight, edited it once, gave it to my beta readers, edited it again based on their feedback. Tightened it to exactly 1,000 words, did a final proof, and uploaded with a few hours to go. <3


Posted By: SeraLittle
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 2:26am
I'm also PST. As soon as I get the prompts I start brainstorming and if I can get a draft out Friday night. The next day I start editing the draft and getting a couple beta readers. Sunday I refine as much as possible (the last time that was mostly hours of cutting 1500 words down to 1000 - I am going to try hard not to overwrite this time!)

Edited to note that I completely rewrote the initial Friday night draft, and I spent most of the weekend agonizing over everything. In case that wasn't evident lol


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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 2:29am
Thanks for sharing! 

I'm hoping I'll be able to jump straight into brainstorming and drafting this round. Historical Fiction was a curve ball I wasn't prepared for LOL

I was pretty good about not over-writing by too much. I think I only needed to pare down 300 words or so. I did lose a whole paragraph/story beat, but the it was flavour and the story survived without it :) 


Posted By: Frey_a
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 2:43am
Get prompts at 2pm. Brainstorm, google definitions and genres, brainstorm some more, narrow it down to something I can work with. Write first draft Saturday night, ask betas for feedback, and then fix it up on Sunday, submit Sunday night because I work Mondays.

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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 8:49am


My preferred process: check prompts. Sleep on it. Spend the day on Saturday working it out in my head, noodling things. Try to have at least the major plot points sorted out before writing: inciting incident, conflict, climax, denouement. Sit down to draft Saturday evening and send to beta. Edit Sunday. Submit.

What ACTUALLY happens more often than not (including this round): fall asleep and check prompts at 3am during my regularly scheduled insomnia. WTF into my pillow for a bit. Do everything but write on Saturday. Pout because the prompts suck. Procrastinate some more. Panic write for an hour on Sunday evening and submit in disgust, sans beta. Try to forget about it until results come out. 

Truth be told, I often write better stories when I panic write than when I have more time...




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Posted By: Patagonia
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:43am
Originally posted by nod1v1ng nod1v1ng wrote:



My preferred process: check prompts. Sleep on it. Spend the day on Saturday working it out in my head, noodling things. Try to have at least the major plot points sorted out before writing: inciting incident, conflict, climax, denouement. Sit down to draft Saturday evening and send to beta. Edit Sunday. Submit.

What ACTUALLY happens more often than not (including this round): fall asleep and check prompts at 3am during my regularly scheduled insomnia. WTF into my pillow for a bit. Do everything but write on Saturday. Pout because the prompts suck. Procrastinate some more. Panic write for an hour on Sunday evening and submit in disgust, sans beta. Try to forget about it until results come out. 

Truth be told, I often write better stories when I panic write than when I have more time...



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Posted By: Patagonia
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:51am
I'm NY time zone, so the prompts come out at midnight for me, and I am rarely, if ever, actually awake at that time. BUT I do tend to wake several times in the night, so I will check my prompts then, and hopefully have some ideas float around in my brain as I fall back to sleep for the remainder of the night. Sometimes this is helpful and sometimes not. I remember having an idea one time that I thought was brilliant as I was dozing off to sleep, only to greet that same idea with a big "WTF?!" the next morning!LOL

I generally get up, take a shower, and eat something before really trying to figure anything out, as it takes me quite a while to crawl out of the sleep pit most days. Then I will spend about 1-2 hours on my laptop, writing something - sometimes it's one idea that I start working on and will take to the finish line, and sometimes I get started on 2-3 ideas. 

I then leave it for a bit and get other things done (life does go on, even during an NYCM weekend!), and come back for another couple of hours later in the day. At that point is when I generally start asking for Beta reads - which story line works better, what's working and what's not, etc. 

Then I really get into trying to flesh out the story and make it something I'm happy with. I generally try to have a decent-ish draft before I go to bed on Saturday night, and it's generally late Saturday morning into Sat afternoon and evening that I start offering myself to do Beta reads - that way, I feel like I'm involved in the contest, but not actively writing my own story. 

I get another couple of Beta reads on Sunday, then finish it up and submit. For Flash, I usually submit early afternoon on Sunday. For the 100MF, it's much closer to the deadline - usually between 10pm and 11:30pm . . . I haven't yet gone too close to the deadline!


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Posted By: EstherZ
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:58am
So it’s the same for me except im a religious Jew and I observe the sabbath so I don’t actually get my prompt until Saturday night. Then I do the same thing you do (familiar with genre, think of a loose premise) and sleep on it. Then Sunday I have everyone home including my 2 kids so I only really get a 4 hour gap spread throughout the day to write anything and have some beta readers give feedback. By 11pm I’m in a panic, rereading it 500 times, then I send. 

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Posted By: swilki
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 10:26am
I'm in the uk so the prompts come through at 5 am. I wake up, read them, think it over, forget about it, go to bed, wake up, panic, scribble nonsense, go do something else, panic, go write something passable, realise it's 2am, panic, rewrite, realise its 4:52am, panic, slash words like I'm freddy krueger, submit, go to bed, wake up later and read what I wrote, more out of curiosity than anything else.

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Posted By: cjr169
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 10:37am
Binge drink, stare morosely out my window, ask my cats if my idea is good. Ask my wife too. Write. Hate it. Rewrite. Feel satisfied enough to hand over it to beta readers. Initially ignore their advice thinking I'm a genius. Realize almost all of them are right and have great suggestions. Implement and submit.  


Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 10:50am
Originally posted by cjr169 cjr169 wrote:

...ask my cats if my idea is good. 


I'd ask the dog, but he's a lab, and thinks everything is the bEsT tHinG eVer...


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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by cjr169 cjr169 wrote:

Binge drink, stare morosely out my window, ask my cats if my idea is good. Ask my wife too. Write. Hate it. Rewrite. Feel satisfied enough to hand over it to beta readers. Initially ignore their advice thinking I'm a genius. Realize almost all of them are right and have great suggestions. Implement and submit.  

Hahaha ❤️

My favourite piece of editing advice is "When somebody tells you there’s something wrong with your book they’re almost always right, when they tell you how to fix it they’re almost always wrong."

It helps me listen to my readers and commit to fixing what they point out - just maybe not in the ways they suggest 😉


Posted By: SeraLittle
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by nod1v1ng nod1v1ng wrote:

Originally posted by cjr169 cjr169 wrote:

...ask my cats if my idea is good. 


I'd ask the dog, but he's a lab, and thinks everything is the bEsT tHinG eVer...

LOL. I would ask my chow chow but her two jobs are guarding the door and snoring very loudly, she's not interested in such frivolities (unless maybe copious treats are involved). 


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Posted By: cweathe5
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 2:50pm
Receive prompts at midnight. Have absolutely no idea what I can make of them for almost the entire 48 hours. Finally come up with a fitting idea shortly before time's up. Frantically type it all out, rushing through the conclusion and arguably the most important part of the piece. Steadily panic and cringe at myself for the rest of the month until results are released.
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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by cweathe5 cweathe5 wrote:

Receive prompts at midnight. Have absolutely no idea what I can make of them for almost the entire 48 hours. Finally come up with a fitting idea shortly before time's up. Frantically type it all out, rushing through the conclusion and arguably the most important part of the piece. Steadily panic and cringe at myself for the rest of the month until results are released.
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LOLLOLLOL This is great! I hope you get the chance to write comedy next! 


Posted By: DTMN13
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 3:22pm
I'm in Ireland, so the prompts came through early in the morning for the Flash Fiction competition. For reference I wrote for group 69, we were assigned the genre of Fairytale, the location was a nursing home, and the object was a mop. The judges placed my story in 11th.

I mulled on the prompts for a day or so, getting a vague idea in my head of the approach. When I write it's kinda like I'm chipping away at a big block of marble. Each word, each chisel, takes me closer to the finished product. There's no real plan. There's no clear end goal to work towards when I start, that comes in time. I'm just chipping away at the marble. 

All in all over the 48hrs I probably spent maybe 90 minutes typing the story, 30 minutes researching lore accurate details ( my story was a fairytale but I wanted the characters to be mythologically correct - Ironically enough one of the judges had an issue with the historically accurate description of a character but ah well) and 30 minutes editing out errors or making minor adjustments. I think I submitted it late Sunday evening, Irish time, so maybe 7-8 hours before deadline.

I guess it's a 'writing process ', as something was written from it, but it's not the sort of process engineers will be studying for it's efficiency. It's the sort of process that gets the job done but afterwards I'm left wondering how exactly.


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Posted By: taaaylor
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 6:31pm
I tend to write word-association of different ways to take the assigned prompts. Often from that, I land on a character and some sort of crisis they are trying to overcome. The story follows from that. Sometimes I need to research and learn about the particular demands of a genre/setting, e.g. round 1 I was assigned a distillery as a setting, so I needed to go learn how the heck those work.

I usually write close to the last minute, because I have ADHD and struggle to start things. x)

I think being in PST as a time zone is somewhat of an advantage, because I get a couple hours to think over a prompt before sleeping on it.


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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by taaaylor taaaylor wrote:

I think being in PST as a time zone is somewhat of an advantage, because I get a couple hours to think over a prompt before sleeping on it.

I totally agree!  Getting to marinate on the assignment overnight before diving in is a huge advantage for my brain! <3


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Posted By: SeraLittle
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by A. H. Davison A. H. Davison wrote:

Originally posted by taaaylor taaaylor wrote:

I think being in PST as a time zone is somewhat of an advantage, because I get a couple hours to think over a prompt before sleeping on it.

I totally agree!  Getting to marinate on the assignment overnight before diving in is a huge advantage for my brain! <3

Ditto! It feels like I get 2 1/2 days instead of 2 :)


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Posted By: FireHorse
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:25pm
Like Frey_a I'm in Australia so the prompts come in early / late afternoon Saturday depending on daylight saving. (Because we're in the other hemisphere, relative times shift by two hours - you go forward, we go back and vice-versa.)

So in theory:
- I read the prompts, then carry on with my afternoon while brewing ideas. This can include brainstorming with my family or any other poor sucker who happens to show up. The cats are not interested so I've given up on them.
- later afternoon / evening I sit down and write a first draft, then sleep on it
- quick review on Sunday morning for obvious improvements and time to get out to the betas
- edit, finalise and submit Sunday night so I can focus on work Monday.

Unlike Frey_a I work for myself. That gives me a little more flexibility. So in practice:
- I read the prompts, then carry on with my afternoon while brewing ideas. This can include brainstorming with my family or any other poor sucker who happens to show up. The cats are not interested so I've given up on them.
- late evening I sit down and pretend I'm writing a first draft. Actually I scroll the forums, research, play games and generally procrastinate
- sometime between 1am and 4pm I decide it's time to stop procrastinating and write something. Then I get into the groove and write and tinker and edit till at least midday.
- sometime on Sunday afternoon / evening I'm ready to submit to betas. I love betas but I don't share first drafts. I like them fairly polished before they go out.
- Edit more based on beta feedback. Sleep on it.
- wake up Monday. Review. Submit.
- Tinker more when I'm meant to be working. Resubmit. Obsessively check (no-work) email for additional beta feedback. Resubmit.
- Finally get into some work. Come up for air, think of something I want to change and discover the deadline has passed.

...I'm meant to be working now, but here I am procrastinating on the forums and we don't even have prompts yet!!!Confused


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Posted By: jennifer.quail
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by A. H. Davison A. H. Davison wrote:

Originally posted by taaaylor taaaylor wrote:

I think being in PST as a time zone is somewhat of an advantage, because I get a couple hours to think over a prompt before sleeping on it.

I totally agree!  Getting to marinate on the assignment overnight before diving in is a huge advantage for my brain! <3

The best was being on Central European summer time--I could wake up, see the prompts, and have all day to write. 

My "process" this time, not that it matters because 1. I'm certain to get yet another garbage genre, probably one I've gotten at least twice already and 2. unless I win the round I basically can't get enough points to move on anyway is going to be have to wait up, see the prompts, get a little sleep, feed dogs, feed cats, take care of all the livestock, round up cats into carriers, get them to the cat-boarding place on my way to work, go to work, and then try to vomit out something that will spoon-feed the judges the long-winded description their feedback suggests they have to have or they can't understand a story, because Sunday I have to get up, feed the dogs, take care of everyone outside, load the car, take the dogs next door, and drive three hours to mom's where there's more packing and unpacking. At least the feedback suggests there isn't any point in putting thought into it.


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Posted By: spilledink
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2023 at 9:36pm
Truth be told, I'm a little frightened by how closely my process mirrors some other's here. Well, with a few exceptions.

For example, write a second story and offer one as a sacrifice and hope to finish the better one before the time limit. (This has happened in at least three competitions but not in the current flash.)

I do wait for the prompts and sleep on them unless an idea strikes right away. I will scratch out the general plot, characters and then sleep on it.

Then in the morning with any luck, I can punch out a first draft in the morning. I write it all. If I have to cut, so be it. Research, technical details get added last. Cut back later. Ha ha.

Edit.

Beta readers.

If it gets this far without self-loathing or doubt then I probably don't have a second story already started somewhere in the back of my head distracting me. "Pick me. Pick me. I'm the better choice."


After my husband asks "What?" for the dozenth time, I know I've been talking to myself. So that's my process. So...not like other's at all. Sorry!


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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2023 at 1:34am
Originally posted by spilledink spilledink wrote:

Truth be told, I'm a little frightened by how closely my process mirrors some other's here. Well, with a few exceptions.

For example, write a second story and offer one as a sacrifice and hope to finish the better one before the time limit. (This has happened in at least three competitions but not in the current flash.)

I do wait for the prompts and sleep on them unless an idea strikes right away. I will scratch out the general plot, characters and then sleep on it.

Then in the morning with any luck, I can punch out a first draft in the morning. I write it all. If I have to cut, so be it. Research, technical details get added last. Cut back later. Ha ha.

Edit.

Beta readers.

If it gets this far without self-loathing or doubt then I probably don't have a second story already started somewhere in the back of my head distracting me. "Pick me. Pick me. I'm the better choice."


After my husband asks "What?" for the dozenth time, I know I've been talking to myself. So that's my process. So...not like other's at all. Sorry!

Haha, I love having a spare story to sacrifice LOL❤️ 

For me, sleeping on it is key. I might even take a nap just to make sure my idea holds water LOL


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Posted By: A. H. Davison
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2023 at 1:41am
Originally posted by FireHorse FireHorse wrote:

Like Frey_a I'm in Australia so the prompts come in early / late afternoon Saturday depending on daylight saving. (Because we're in the other hemisphere, relative times shift by two hours - you go forward, we go back and vice-versa.)

So in theory:
- I read the prompts, then carry on with my afternoon while brewing ideas. This can include brainstorming with my family or any other poor sucker who happens to show up. The cats are not interested so I've given up on them.
- later afternoon / evening I sit down and write a first draft, then sleep on it
- quick review on Sunday morning for obvious improvements and time to get out to the betas
- edit, finalise and submit Sunday night so I can focus on work Monday.

Unlike Frey_a I work for myself. That gives me a little more flexibility. So in practice:
- I read the prompts, then carry on with my afternoon while brewing ideas. This can include brainstorming with my family or any other poor sucker who happens to show up. The cats are not interested so I've given up on them.
- late evening I sit down and pretend I'm writing a first draft. Actually I scroll the forums, research, play games and generally procrastinate
- sometime between 1am and 4pm I decide it's time to stop procrastinating and write something. Then I get into the groove and write and tinker and edit till at least midday.
- sometime on Sunday afternoon / evening I'm ready to submit to betas. I love betas but I don't share first drafts. I like them fairly polished before they go out.
- Edit more based on beta feedback. Sleep on it.
- wake up Monday. Review. Submit.
- Tinker more when I'm meant to be working. Resubmit. Obsessively check (no-work) email for additional beta feedback. Resubmit.
- Finally get into some work. Come up for air, think of something I want to change and discover the deadline has passed.

...I'm meant to be working now, but here I am procrastinating on the forums and we don't even have prompts yet!!!Confused

My cats are pretty good at listening to my ideas LOL

I'll probably be hanging out on the forum for most of tomorrow as well even though we know exactly what time the new prompts are going to drop at LOL


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