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Topic: ChatGPT
Posted By: copperdogma
Subject: ChatGPT
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2023 at 11:20am
[Note: I've cross-posted this in https://forums.nycmidnight.com/chatgpt_topic51407_page1.html" rel="nofollow - Creative Writing Corner ]

I'm surprised to find there isn't a single post on here about ChatGPT yet.

Primer

If you're not familiar, it's an AI (large language model) released at the beginning of December. It's a simple chat interface and you can ask it to do pretty much any creative or analysis task you can think of, and it does a surprisingly capable job. It's not brilliant, but it's like having access to an average person with infinite time on their hands to do whatever you ask of them.

In my opinion, its novelty lies in its ability to write consistently coherent and self-consistent long-form text and the fact it has a memory (about 5 pages), so if you ask it to "Write me a short story about a pirate and a unicorn," you can then say "That was pretty good, but add a plot twist." And it will.

You can sign up for free to try it:  https://chat.openai.com/chat" rel="nofollow - https://chat.openai.com/chat

Obvious uses for writing contests:
- Generate ten story ideas for the following prompt: Genre: Romance, Word: Kettle, Action: Breaking a vase
- Generate odd names for a restaurant you might find in San Francisco.
- Here's a story I wrote: [your story pasted here]. Punch up the dialogue and add a joke.
- Write a story of maximum 250 words for the following prompt: Genre: Action, Word: Motorcycle, Action: Breaking a vase
etc.

I feel it's obvious that getting it to write your entire story defeats the purpose of a writing contest. But after that it gets.. fuzzy.

What are people's opinions on using it for writing? I've been debating this with my fellow writers recently.


-=Cam



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Posted By: Deschain
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2023 at 4:47pm
i wouldn't use it in a competition, even for the small task of coming up with a restaurant name. but also i know enough about it to know there's no way to enforce a ban on its use, so at this point people should be aware that they're potentially competing against AI-assisted writing. anyway i can't really worry about what other people do, i have my own artistic code i follow, what other people do is outside of my control

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https://forums.nycmidnight.com/topic51843.html" rel="nofollow - SS R1 G23 Haunted by the Truth *TW*

https://forums.nycmidnight.com/author-archive_topic43498_post551825.html#551825" rel="nofollow - All Stories


Posted By: Deschain
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2023 at 5:01pm
In case anyone is curious, this is what ChatGPT did with the Round 1 MF250 prompts I had (ghost story, applying lipstick, "splash"). I gave it just the basic instructions, further instructions could've produced something better...

Once there was a young woman named Mary who lived in an old mansion. She was known for her beauty, but also for her vanity. She would spend hours in front of the mirror, applying makeup, particularly her favorite red lipstick.

One evening, as she was getting ready for a party, she heard a strange noise coming from the bathroom. She ignored it, thinking it was just the pipes, but the noise persisted. As she was about to apply her lipstick, the noise grew louder. Suddenly, the bathroom door flew open and a ghost appeared before her. It was the ghost of a woman who had died in the mansion years ago. She had been betrayed by her lover and had taken her own life, but her spirit had been trapped in the mansion ever since.

The ghost pointed to Mary's lipstick, and in a haunting voice, said "You will die the same way I did, by your own hand."

Mary, terrified, dropped the lipstick and ran out of the room. She never returned to the mansion and never wore red lipstick again.

From that day on, whenever anyone visited the bathroom, they would hear a splash and the ghostly woman's voice warning "Don't make the same mistake I did."



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https://forums.nycmidnight.com/topic51843.html" rel="nofollow - SS R1 G23 Haunted by the Truth *TW*

https://forums.nycmidnight.com/author-archive_topic43498_post551825.html#551825" rel="nofollow - All Stories


Posted By: stereoblue
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2023 at 2:05pm
Yeah, after I wrote my story I went to ChatGPT to see if it could write a better one. Thankfully, it really, really did not. Like the example above, it was pretty basic and would take a good amount of work to turn it into something worthwhile. And even then, why bother punching up something that rudimentary? Still, it's pretty clear AIs will either equal or outpace human writers sometime in the near future. And that's a pretty intimidating thought.

This went viral, but still worth the link. Nick Cave responds to ChatGPT writing Nick Cave lyrics:  https://www.theredhandfiles.com/chat-gpt-what-do-you-think/" rel="nofollow - https://www.theredhandfiles.com/chat-gpt-what-do-you-think/




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Posted By: TheGlamWitch
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2023 at 3:27pm
Originally posted by Deschain Deschain wrote:

i wouldn't use it in a competition, even for the small task of coming up with a restaurant name. but also i know enough about it to know there's no way to enforce a ban on its use, so at this point people should be aware that they're potentially competing against AI-assisted writing. anyway i can't really worry about what other people do, i have my own artistic code i follow, what other people do is outside of my control

The At assisted writing gives a decent summary of a story but it lacks the engaging part. I would hope no one would think an Al generated story would Win. Af least not a free one.LOL


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SS2023 R1 Story: http://bit.ly/3Ycm107" rel="nofollow - The Mystic
100 Word MF 2021 https://forums.nycmidnight.com/topic41224_post424200.html#424200" rel="nofollow - Number Five




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