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Topic: Flash Challenge #2 Genres
Posted By: ramblejamble
Subject: Flash Challenge #2 Genres
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 7:55am
I am very curious about how the genres will be assigned for the second challenge... 

Do they try to give each group a completely different genre from challenge 1? 

Or is it completely random and by the luck of the draw you could end up with two quite similar genres?

I would love to know your experience in previous years. Thanks! Smile


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Posted By: jennifer.quail
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:20am
It's random. Just by sheer numbers, the odds are you won't end up with the same one twice in a row, but there's no guarantee you won't have thriller the first round and suspense the next. 

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Posted By: NYCNewbie
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:22am
Random....

I got ghost twice on the bounce in the screenplay challenge last year.
No guarantees at all.

Good luck in Round 2!

P x

ETA: Just realised actually I got Ghost story twice on the bounce in the screenwriting challenge both this year and last:

SSC 18 R1 Thriller, R2, Comedy, R3 Open
SWC 18 R1 Ghost, R2 Ghost
FFC 18 R1 Romance, R2 Political Satire
SSPC 18 R1 Horror, R2, Historical Fiction, R3 Horror

SSC 19 R1 Political Satire
SWC 19 R1 Ghost, R2 Ghost

FF 19 R1 Crime Caper



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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:32am
Originally posted by NYCNewbie NYCNewbie wrote:

Random....

I got ghost twice on the bounce in the screenplay challenge last year.
No guarantees at all.


What?  I didn't do it!  Lisa made me!


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Posted By: NYCNewbie
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:34am
Originally posted by Random Random wrote:

Originally posted by NYCNewbie NYCNewbie wrote:

Random....

I got ghost twice on the bounce in the screenplay challenge last year.
No guarantees at all.


What?  I didn't do it!  Lisa made me!


I was HOPING you'd bite!

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Posted By: kodanie1
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:48am
I had ghost story for rounds 2 and 3 my first year, so it's possible!

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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2019 at 10:52am
Originally posted by NYCNewbie NYCNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by Random Random wrote:

Originally posted by NYCNewbie NYCNewbie wrote:

Random....

I got ghost twice on the bounce in the screenplay challenge last year.
No guarantees at all.


What?  I didn't do it!  Lisa made me!


I was HOPING you'd bite!


For someone as awesome as you?  Anything!


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Posted By: OnyxLily
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 3:13am
Flash rounds one and two are a little different though, because we stay in the same group, right? So surely the NYCM pixies would make sure no group gets the exact same genre for both rounds? Like, you could end up with thriller and suspense, but hopefully they’d fix it so you didn’t get the exact same thing?

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Posted By: Charlie72
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by OnyxLily OnyxLily wrote:

Flash rounds one and two are a little different though, because we stay in the same group, right? So surely the NYCM pixies would make sure no group gets the exact same genre for both rounds? Like, you could end up with thriller and suspense, but hopefully they’d fix it so you didn’t get the exact same thing?

It’s an interesting question.  From a mathematical fairness standpoint, I don’t think they have to, but from making it FEEL fair, and fun, it might be worth it for them to add that extra step.


Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Charlie72 Charlie72 wrote:

Originally posted by OnyxLily OnyxLily wrote:

Flash rounds one and two are a little different though, because we stay in the same group, right? So surely the NYCM pixies would make sure no group gets the exact same genre for both rounds? Like, you could end up with thriller and suspense, but hopefully they’d fix it so you didn’t get the exact same thing?

It’s an interesting question.  From a mathematical fairness standpoint, I don’t think they have to, but from making it FEEL fair, and fun, it might be worth it for them to add that extra step.


That would complicate the algorithm, though writing it to prevent two sequentially similar results wouldn't be that hard.

Though 'fair' would mean I get more Sci-Fi than I've seen.  I picked up my mother's Heinlein when I was eight and was a major consumer of the genre for the next thirty years.  Of course Nixie and I are going to disagree about the limits of said genre, but we are going to disagree like adults over a glass of wine (or tea, or coffee) and enjoy the conversation. 

I'm due for another trip to Seattle soon and there's a whole bunch of people on this board I would love to sit down and chat with.  Might have to see what I can put together.


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Posted By: Charlie72
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 1:29pm
If they’re smart, they’ve already assigned our next set of prompts, they just haven’t told us what they are yet.  Otherwise, someone could suggest the results could be fixed somehow.  This is the only spot that I know of in all of their competitions when they assign prompts to pre-existing groups.  To really ensure fairness, they have to determine both sets of prompts before the veil of anonymity gets lifted.
Blah blah blah, someone’s probably observed this already.

But the original question shouldn’t be that hard to answer if someone has the lists of prompts, from the first two rounds, from last year?  


Posted By: ramblejamble
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 5:06pm
Thanks for your responses. I admit I'm surprised that it's possible to get the exact same genre again but I guess the unpredictability makes it more fun!



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Posted By: td333777
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2019 at 12:54pm
I don’t think they repeat genres in Challenge 1 & 2 for the same group.  I know in the short story contest you can definitely get the same genre twice (just ask nod1v1ng and her ghost story run), and in flash, your 3rd challenge genre could be a repeat of one of the first two (if you make it through to that round).  But I’ve never seen the first round challenges (1&2) be the same genre.  

TD


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Posted By: ChristiLB
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2019 at 2:27am
Originally posted by OnyxLily OnyxLily wrote:

Flash rounds one and two are a little different though, because we stay in the same group, right?

Wait, we're with the same group for the second challenge in September? Meaning, competing against the exact same people we were up against in round 1? Wow, I didn't know that. I thought everything changed - They assigned each person a new heat, genre, location and object. I'm completely surprised by this new info LOL. I don't mind of course, but I truly thought we'd be competing against new people. 


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Posted By: Jtowery
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2019 at 8:05am
Originally posted by ChristiLB ChristiLB wrote:

Originally posted by OnyxLily OnyxLily wrote:

Flash rounds one and two are a little different though, because we stay in the same group, right?


Wait, we're with the same group for the second challenge in September? Meaning, competing against the exact same people we were up against in round 1? Wow, I didn't know that. I thought everything changed - They assigned each person a new heat, genre, location and object. I'm completely surprised by this new info LOL. I don't mind of course, but I truly thought we'd be competing against new people. 


Yes, we compete within the same group for the first two challenges. Each participant's score is the sum of their first and second challenge points. The top five point getters in each group move on to Round 2.

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Posted By: ramblejamble
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2019 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by td333777 td333777 wrote:

I don’t think they repeat genres in Challenge 1 & 2 for the same group.  I know in the short story contest you can definitely get the same genre twice (just ask nod1v1ng and her ghost story run), and in flash, your 3rd challenge genre could be a repeat of one of the first two (if you make it through to that round).  But I’ve never seen the first round challenges (1&2) be the same genre.  

TD

Thank-you! This makes me very happy.... not that there's anything wrong with Historical Fiction of course.... Smile


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Posted By: Lisa_Who
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2019 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by ramblejamble ramblejamble wrote:

I am very curious about how the genres will be assigned for the second challenge... 

Do they try to give each group a completely different genre from challenge 1? 

Or is it completely random and by the luck of the draw you could end up with two quite similar genres?

I would love to know your experience in previous years. Thanks! Smile

Got romcom in Round 1 AND Round 2 during the last SSC.  There is no safety anywhere. Smile



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