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Feedback Useless As Ever

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Forum Name: Screenwriting Bar & Lounge
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Topic: Feedback Useless As Ever
Posted By: DBA Lehane
Subject: Feedback Useless As Ever
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 10:35am
Ok, this isn’t a case of sour grapes - as I have managed to make it through to the next round of the Short Screenplay Challenge.

However, it’s not the first time I’ve experienced it here, but the feedback I got for my 5 pointer first round script was far more flattering and positive than the feedback for my second heat 13 pointer. I do genuinely wonder sometimes if the points are randomly attributed here and bear no relevance to the actual feedback.

How I could score 13 points with feedback like “not a lot of story here” (ok it’s a 5 page horror!) or “it’s not about anything” (seriously?) baffles me.

I never got round to posting the script here, but here is that screenplay with “no story” and “not about anything” that still managed to score 13 points  https://www.dropbox.com/s/7m5x2uhasgytgds/Nacterror.pdf?dl=0" rel="nofollow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/7m5x2uhasgytgds/Nacterror.pdf?dl=0

Oh well, onto the next round...




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FFC15 4th placed finalist / SSC14 & SSC16 finalist



Replies:
Posted By: JeffreyHowe
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 12:19pm
1) Scoring rubrics don't always align with judge's notes. Trust me on this.
2) All of these are graded on the curve.


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SSC2018:
CH1 G25 https://goo.gl/Nqphyh" rel="nofollow - Noble Rot -15 pts
CH2 https://bit.ly/2TQjxU6" rel="nofollow - Cultivar -14 pts
CH3 G2 Unbalanced Diet


Posted By: Scarlet Screenwriter
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 3:52pm

Tell me about it, Darren ... I got what I thought was the best and most complementary feedback EVER ... and scored 3 points. 

I was the only poster in Group 10, so I have no benchmark.  It's frustrating ... when they don't get the nuance or timing... 





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They seek him here, they seek him there, those damned writers seek him everywhere.
Is he in heaven or is he in hell, that damned elusive Scarlet Screenwriter! (Oh, phuck, that doesn't even rhyme!)


Posted By: DBA Lehane
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 7:04am
I've read a number in my group all of who had decent plots about something, but scored lower than mine.

That said, it does seem to be one judge who was having a bad day, he/she actually also said "there's no real context here (something I'm writing a lot this round)". Not sure that was a constructive comment.

Still, if they're happy to give me 13pts - who am I to argue?

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FFC15 4th placed finalist / SSC14 & SSC16 finalist


Posted By: hwoodwritr
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 5:23pm
Here's my take on this: you are only judged against the other members of your group. Groups are supposedly selected at random. If you get stuck in a group that has several experienced writers, and you are a newbie, you could be screwed at the get-go. If a group consists of newbies, including you (well not "you," but some writer we'll use for an example) then you may do very well, point wise, because you're being judged against other newbies. In that case, anyone who has a glimmer of how to write will do well--the points have to be awarded, even if they are given to top 15 writers in a group of so-so scripts.
A good score does not necessarily mean it was given to a good script.


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SSC
Ch1 G8 http://bit.ly/2P4KRiE" rel="nofollow - …And the Music Played On (12 pts w/FB)
Ch2 G8 http://bit.ly/2E3Wv7y" rel="nofollow - Love and Rebellion (6 pts w/FB)


Posted By: JeffreyHowe
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2019 at 5:54pm
And conversely, if you do find yourself in a top-heavy group, a mediocre score doesn't necessarily mean a mediocre script. That one second-round group last year comes to mind...

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SSC2018:
CH1 G25 https://goo.gl/Nqphyh" rel="nofollow - Noble Rot -15 pts
CH2 https://bit.ly/2TQjxU6" rel="nofollow - Cultivar -14 pts
CH3 G2 Unbalanced Diet



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