How Are We All Doing?
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Topic: How Are We All Doing?
Posted By: Lookit There
Subject: How Are We All Doing?
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:10pm
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I'm at over 1000 words, my comedy isn't funny, the word "eulogy" (which is my subject) has just been mentioned for the first time, and I have marginally once mentioned that my MC likes extreme sports (which maybe makes him a thrill seeker...?) In other words, I kind of hate it. Right on schedule for me, really.
How are you all doing? Feeling it? Struggling?
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Posted By: Quartz_Movement
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:32pm
I'm only 1/10th of the way to my word count, but I feel good because I know the story I'm telling. Some writing that takes precedence popped up that might lead to a job so I've had to devote a bunch of time to that.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:34pm
Lookit There wrote:
I'm at over 1000 words,
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Oye vey! I haven't put any words down yet so you are ahead of the game.
Sometimes the characters make unexpected decisions once I get going, but I usually like to have a broadly defined story arc laid out in my head before I start writing. I currently know how I want to start and finish, but not entirely sure about that troublesome middle bit. I might have to just suck it up, start writing, and see what happens.
Last year for R1 I did not settle on an idea and start writing until Thursday. Still managed to eek out top of the group. I shan't rely that that kind of lightening striking twice!
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Posted By: TheBeardedBard
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:35pm
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Brainstorming still. Waiting on an answer to a question that will determine if any of my ideas will actually work. Maybe you can help? I got boxing promoter as character, I was wondering if instead of specifying boxing, I could just make him a fight promoter? Also my subject is bootlegging, is an illegal fighting circuit enough to meet the requirements of bootlegging?
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Posted By: jcpaulson
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:36pm
I have an idea I'll be workshopping and then writing last-minute. But I do want to ask some of the experienced people: I got romance, and I was wondering if anyone's ever submitted a story with a same-sex pairing and if it went over well. Advice appreciated.
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:43pm
jcpaulson wrote:
I have an idea I'll be workshopping and then writing last-minute. But I do want to ask some of the experienced people: I got romance, and I was wondering if anyone's ever submitted a story with a same-sex pairing and if it went over well. Advice appreciated. |
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:45pm
TheBeardedBard wrote:
Brainstorming still. Waiting on an answer to a question that will determine if any of my ideas will actually work. Maybe you can help? I got boxing promoter as character, I was wondering if instead of specifying boxing, I could just make him a fight promoter? Also my subject is bootlegging, is an illegal fighting circuit enough to meet the requirements of bootlegging? |
That's a tough one. Personally, I feel like if they said boxing, it should be boxing. Not sure what all constitutes the many definitions of bootlegging. Maybe others have thoughts as well?
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Posted By: jcpaulson
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:46pm
Thanks. I'm a lesbian and I don't know if I necessarily want to write a hetero couple, but since the idea is still in the early stages, I'll see what happens.
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Posted By: Tunamonkeys
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:51pm
Sci-fi/taxidermy/curmudgeon for me. I think I have a solid idea in my head, but its executing those ideas to create what I want. Also I worry that Sci-fi won't be "in your face" enough.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 7:59pm
jcpaulson wrote:
Thanks. I'm a lesbian and I don't know if I necessarily want to write a hetero couple, but since the idea is still in the early stages, I'll see what happens. |
I think you'll be fine. I've seen lots of same sex pairings in stories and they've placed based on the quality of the story. Write interesting characters and tell a good story. Period.
I think if you are more comfortable writing a same sex pairing, then do it!
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:02pm
nod1v1ng wrote:
jcpaulson wrote:
Thanks. I'm a lesbian and I don't know if I necessarily want to write a hetero couple, but since the idea is still in the early stages, I'll see what happens. |
I think you'll be fine. I've seen lots of same sex pairings in stories and they've placed based on the quality of the story. Write interesting characters and tell a good story. Period.
I think if you are more comfortable writing a same sex pairing, then do it! |
Absolutely!
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Posted By: SheriLS
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:03pm
jcpaulson wrote:
Thanks. I'm a lesbian and I don't know if I necessarily want to write a hetero couple, but since the idea is still in the early stages, I'll see what happens. |
Do you find yourself thinking that if you don't write a hetero couple that the judges will think you're trying too hard to be modern? I always find myself thinking that! I submitted a story with a lesbian married couple to a contest and I really, really, struggled before hitting send. Maybe it's just me.
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Posted By: angelagilbert
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:13pm
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I have an idea I love in my head, and I hate it on paper. I'm giving myself tomorrow to see if I can turn this idea into a workable draft before I scrap it for next the idea in the batting cage.
Romance--- not my typical genre--- so I decided to go super weird with it. We shall see.
Right on track for me-- wondering why the hell I do this to myself. We pay money for the pleasure of this misery.
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Posted By: GallifreyGirl
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:16pm
TheBeardedBard wrote:
Brainstorming still. Waiting on an answer to a question that will determine if any of my ideas will actually work. Maybe you can help? I got boxing promoter as character, I was wondering if instead of specifying boxing, I could just make him a fight promoter? Also my subject is bootlegging, is an illegal fighting circuit enough to meet the requirements of bootlegging? |
So I always start with google or wikipedia to get some ideas and try to get as "out of the box" as possible.
The definition of "bootlegging" is pretty broad from what I've found with a cursory search, and consists mostly of secretive organization of non-sanctioned activity -- so in that case, I would say yes, illegal fighting could be considered a bootlegger organization.
As for the boxing -- having been around for a while, I'll say that the objects and characters have gotten much more specific over time. If it says 'boxing,' I would tend to stick with boxing.
On the other hand, playing fast and loose with the prompts is a NYCM tradition. I've done well with stories where a 'protestor' was a teenager being bratty about doing what her grandma asked her to, a romance where the guy protag ends up marrying the girl protag's sister, a story where 'long-term parking' was a euphemism for cryosleep .... you get the gist. So if you wanted your boxing promoter to promote, say, Boxing Day ... or a guy at a Uhaul dealer trying to upsell boxes ... or any other kind of weird and twisty interpretation, the judges tend to like those.
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:29pm
Haven't even come close to starting. I went to the movies and watched 12 Strong (surprisingly good), and then I just watched A Ghost Story. Now I'm going to go play some more Fallout. I'll write the story on Monday.
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:33pm
Lookit There wrote:
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Isn't that limiting?
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:38pm
MattrickBT wrote:
Lookit There wrote:
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Isn't that limiting?
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No. In fact, I consider it quite the opposite - proving that a story with a gay protagonist doesn't have to be only about being gay. I'm creating genre fiction that I would actually want to read.
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:46pm
Lookit There wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Lookit There wrote:
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Isn't that limiting?
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No. In fact, I consider it quite the opposite - proving that a story with a gay protagonist doesn't have to be only about being gay. I'm creating genre fiction that I would actually want to read. |
There are plenty of stories with gay protagonists that are more than about only being gay. One won best picture last year. You don't really have to prove it can be done because it has.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:51pm
Lookit There wrote:
I'm creating genre fiction that I would actually want to read.
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And I think this right here is what will give you a good story.  
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Posted By: LaraH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 8:59pm
No words on paper but after the initial panic of there’s no way I’ll come up with anything I’m reasonably happy that I woke up with an idea I think is serviceable. Long road trip home tonight and I’m sure I can do plenty of research while my teenager takes a turn driving.
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Posted By: TheDustyZebra
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:02pm
MattrickBT wrote:
Lookit There wrote:
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Isn't that limiting?
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Why would it be any more limiting than writing non-gay characters? People are people. The same things happen to everyone, regardless of who they love.
One of my online friends has done quite well here with his gay characters. I haven't seen any evidence that any of the judges has a bias against it.
Oh, and as for the boxing promoter, I would say you could make it work even if the character was someone in charge of making sure people use boxes, so I wouldn't think illegal fighting (which is still mostly boxing, right?) would be a problem.
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Posted By: mstracho
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:13pm
Lookit There wrote:
I'm at over 1000 words, my comedy isn't funny, the word "eulogy" (which is my subject) has just been mentioned for the first time, and I have marginally once mentioned that my MC likes extreme sports (which maybe makes him a thrill seeker...?)
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I saw this one and it looks so fun to write! Maybe that's because it's really up my alley to flip something like a eulogy on its head. Kind of jealous, but I'm just telling myself that my prompts are more challenging to me personally.
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Posted By: patsy
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:21pm
After a day of research and idea pinging. I got nothing but a headache. I HATE COMEDY.
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:27pm
TheBeardedBard wrote:
Brainstorming still. Waiting on an answer to a question that will determine if any of my ideas will actually work. Maybe you can help? I got boxing promoter as character, I was wondering if instead of specifying boxing, I could just make him a fight promoter? Also my subject is bootlegging, is an illegal fighting circuit enough to meet the requirements of bootlegging? |
Bootlegging in general is the sale of goods in violation of the law. Could be DVDs (in Russia the WHOLE STORE is probably bootleg), alcohol, shoes, you name it.
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:32pm
TheDustyZebra wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Lookit There wrote:
Being gay myself, my entries are *always* focused on gay characters. Yes, I've had same-sex romantic couples in my stories (though have never had romance or rom-com as assignments), and have never been downgraded for it. This current story is my first that doesn't feature a gay male protagonist, and that's only because it doesn't fit the character or the story.
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Isn't that limiting?
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Why would it be any more limiting than writing non-gay characters? People are people. The same things happen to everyone, regardless of who they love.
One of my online friends has done quite well here with his gay characters. I haven't seen any evidence that any of the judges has a bias against it.
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If people are people, then why do they have to all be gay? Seems very pigeon-holing. I've written gay, straight, bisexual, and even have an idea for a transexual story. Variety is the spice of life. Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:39pm
nod1v1ng wrote:
Lookit There wrote:
I'm creating genre fiction that I would actually want to read.
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And I think this right here is what will give you a good story.  
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I second that!
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 9:43pm
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I'm about 800 words in. Started inserting placeholders for framing the rest of the story. And hoping 2500 words will be enough for all the world-building I'm attempting in this one.
Once I get "the" idea, that's it for me. I need to see it through. So here we go. In good times and in bad, sickness and health... you get the idea.
Hope everyone is doing well and the muse is being kind.
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Posted By: wateringcan
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:01pm
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Plotted the idea out; started writing. Haven't checked my wordcount yet. I have a tendency to be very perfectionistic so part of today has been rewriting the first few paras until I am completely happy with them. Not necessarily the best way to write but I'm not feeling too much time pressure right now.
Biggest fear is that it will be way over wordcount but I plan to just chuck it all down on paper tomorrow and see how long it is, have a look and see how easy it will be to cut down without utterly destroying it, and decide then whether this is the right idea or whether I try a different one.
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:12pm
MattrickBT wrote:
Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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You mean, like, looking at the world and suddenly thinkng "gosh, I get to write whatever I am comfortable with, maybe it is OK for other people to do that too"?
Or, like, instead of criticizing someone for writing what they know and feel they can render accurately, maybe not trying to dictate what is OK for them to write?
Or, like, considering that if you are that judgmental about them writing from their own experience, rather than challenging THEM for it, maybe it's a great opportunity to challenge yourself - by asking, if you are this dogmatic about them wanting to write about what they have actually experienced, is it a good time to examine whether that approach has a negative impact on the authenticity of your own characters?
Yes, writing is, for some people, about challenging themselves. For some people it is about expressing themselves. It is rarely about challenging others' right to express themselves in their writing in ways that resonate with them. :)
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:17pm
nixie wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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You mean, like, looking at the world and suddenly thinkng "gosh, I get to write whatever I am comfortable with, maybe it is OK for other people to do that too"?
Or, like, instead of criticizing someone for writing what they know and feel they can render accurately, maybe not trying to dictate what is OK for them to write?
Or, like, considering that if you are that judgmental about them writing from their own experience, rather than challenging THEM for it, maybe it's a great opportunity to challenge yourself - by asking, if you are this dogmatic about them wanting to write about what they have actually experienced, is it a good time to examine whether that approach has a negative impact on the authenticity of your own characters?
Yes, writing is, for some people, about challenging themselves. For some people it is about expressing themselves. It is rarely about challenging others' right to express themselves in their writing in ways that resonate with them. :) |
^^ This x 100
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:17pm
nixie wrote:
Yes, writing is, for some people, about challenging themselves. For some people it is about expressing themselves. It is rarely about challenging others' right to express themselves in their writing in ways that resonate with them. :) |
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:18pm
nixie wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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You mean, like, looking at the world and suddenly thinkng "gosh, I get to write whatever I am comfortable with, maybe it is OK for other people to do that too"?
Or, like, instead of criticizing someone for writing what they know and feel they can render accurately, maybe not trying to dictate what is OK for them to write?
Or, like, considering that if you are that judgmental about them writing from their own experience, rather than challenging THEM for it, maybe it's a great opportunity to challenge yourself - by asking, if you are this dogmatic about them wanting to write about what they have actually experienced, is it a good time to examine whether that approach has a negative impact on the authenticity of your own characters?
Yes, writing is, for some people, about challenging themselves. For some people it is about expressing themselves. It is rarely about challenging others' right to express themselves in their writing in ways that resonate with them. :) |
One more reason to love you!
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:21pm
Wrote an 800-ish word outline detailing the progression and sent it off for beta. It came back in tatters; pale, shaking, traumatized by the experience, barely able to articulate the horror it endured under the unforgiving glare of honest appraisal.
This tells me there is hope.
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:23pm
Random wrote:
Wrote an 800-ish word outline detailing the progression and sent it off for beta. It came back in tatters; pale, shaking, traumatized by the experience, barely able to articulate the horror it endured under the unforgiving glare of honest appraisal.
This tells me there is hope.
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Sounds like you have a draft. Woohoo! :)
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Posted By: SheriLS
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:26pm
nixie wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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You mean, like, looking at the world and suddenly thinkng "gosh, I get to write whatever I am comfortable with, maybe it is OK for other people to do that too"?
Or, like, instead of criticizing someone for writing what they know and feel they can render accurately, maybe not trying to dictate what is OK for them to write?
Or, like, considering that if you are that judgmental about them writing from their own experience, rather than challenging THEM for it, maybe it's a great opportunity to challenge yourself - by asking, if you are this dogmatic about them wanting to write about what they have actually experienced, is it a good time to examine whether that approach has a negative impact on the authenticity of your own characters?
Yes, writing is, for some people, about challenging themselves. For some people it is about expressing themselves. It is rarely about challenging others' right to express themselves in their writing in ways that resonate with them. :) |
Nixie, I don't know you, but I feel like I'd like you!!
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Posted By: E-to-the-Day
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:27pm
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970 words in and utterly dissatisfied with it. This isn't unusual though, we are so often our worst critics.
Step 1. Start blasting through what seems like a great plot. step 2. Feel the creep of self doubt step 3. Freeze and stop writing step 4. Delete everything, start again and harass non-reading non-writing boyfriend for ideas while he's busy. Step 5. Pout like a three year old and whine about how you're never gonna be the next Murakami.
Rinse and repeat until the final hours.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:29pm
Random wrote:
Wrote an 800-ish word outline detailing the progression and sent it off for beta. It came back in tatters; pale, shaking, traumatized by the experience, barely able to articulate the horror it endured under the unforgiving glare of honest appraisal.
This tells me there is hope.
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Woot! Looking forward to seeing what you do with this... I'm sort of playing fast and loose right now with the "influenza."
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:34pm
SheriLS wrote:
Nixie, I don't know you, but I feel like I'd like you!! |
There are quite a few people here that fall into that category. Just nice folks; able to disagree without being disagreeable, always willing to listen and able to express themselves. I love that.
The exceptions aren't worth getting into a twist over.
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:36pm
Random wrote:
SheriLS wrote:
Nixie, I don't know you, but I feel like I'd like you!! |
There are quite a few people here that fall into that category. Just nice folks; able to disagree without being disagreeable, always willing to listen and able to express themselves. I love that.
The exceptions aren't worth getting into a twist over.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:37pm
E-to-the-Day wrote:
970 words in and utterly dissatisfied with it. This isn't unusual though, we are so often our worst critics.
Step 1. Start blasting through what seems like a great plot. step 2. Feel the creep of self doubt step 3. Freeze and stop writing step 4. Delete everything, start again and harass non-reading non-writing boyfriend for ideas while he's busy. Step 5. Pout like a three year old and whine about how you're never gonna be the next Murakami.
Rinse and repeat until the final hours. |
Looks like you have a well defined process E!
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:39pm
Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:43pm
E-to-the-Day wrote:
970 words in and utterly dissatisfied with it. This isn't unusual though, we are so often our worst critics.
Step 1. Start blasting through what seems like a great plot. step 2. Feel the creep of self doubt step 3. Freeze and stop writing step 4. Delete everything, start again and harass non-reading non-writing boyfriend for ideas while he's busy. Step 5. Pout like a three year old and whine about how you're never gonna be the next Murakami.
Rinse and repeat until the final hours. |
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Posted By: E-to-the-Day
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:50pm
"Process" Yup. In all honesty though, being a Kiwi I smashed out a 2000 word short story for fun while waiting on the starting gun, so I'm capable......When there isn't any pressure.We will see.
If this doesn't work out, I'll go back to the plans for writing smut (Just don't tell ma, she'll weep for shame) 
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:51pm
Random wrote:
"Fast and loose" doesn't work when you know exactly what you're talking about!
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I actually have a BioChem degree, so in this case my "fast & loose" is a willingness to ignore what I know in favor of escaping the pigeon holes that the specific disease lends.
Here's hoping the judges aren't very science-y. Or that I can put together a story that's engaging enough that I'm forgiven. LOL
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:53pm
nixie wrote:
MattrickBT wrote:
Isn't a big part of writing forcing yourself to see the world a different way?
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You mean, like, looking at the world and suddenly thinkng "gosh, I get to write whatever I am comfortable with, maybe it is OK for other people to do that too"?
Or, like, instead of criticizing someone for writing what they know and feel they can render accurately, maybe not trying to dictate what is OK for them to write?
Or, like, considering that if you are that judgmental about them writing from their own experience, rather than challenging THEM for it, maybe it's a great opportunity to challenge yourself - by asking, if you are this dogmatic about them wanting to write about what they have actually experienced, is it a good time to examine whether that approach has a negative impact on the authenticity of your own characters?
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You've entirely misconstrued everything. I merely asked if they found writing essentially only one category of character to be limiting. Where you're getting being judgmental from, I have no idea. Now you're on about me examining my own characters due to my 'don't write myself' apprach for a negative impact on their authenticity? Let me assure you, writing fallable, human characters that are little like me happens to be my strength as a writer. Why in the hell would I want to write about me? I live me 24/7. And I still express myself just fine with my writing, regardless of how similar my characters are too me. i in no way challenged anyone's right to express themselves, I merely inquired.
Jesus, I forgot no one here can talk about the writing process without getting all defensive and sensitive. "This guy asked if I find doing X all the time is limiting...he's clearly trying to challenge my expression by expressing his own curiosity!!!!" I'm merely trying to encourage another writer to spread their wings and explore the endless possibilities of the their own imagination. If you think that's wrong, then I don't even know how to respond to that.
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Posted By: ASharedNarrative
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 10:57pm
I've created a notebook in Evernote detailing setting and some characters, as well as a MacGuffin. I'm waiting for a friend to review it, in order to see if the pitch actually flies or if I have to start from scratch.
Haven't actually written a single word...
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:05pm
nod1v1ng wrote:
Random wrote:
"Fast and loose" doesn't work when you know exactly what you're talking about!
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I actually have a BioChem degree, so in this case my "fast & loose" is a willingness to ignore what I know in favor of escaping the pigeon holes that the specific disease lends.
Here's hoping the judges aren't very science-y. Or that I can put together a story that's engaging enough that I'm forgiven. LOL |
Seriously looking forward to reading your story. There's a rumor that you're really, really good at this so I'm hoping to learn quite a bit along the way.
Smoke and mirrors, but please don't mention Warp Particles. Remember what H. L. Mencken said.
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:12pm
Random wrote:
Seriously looking forward to reading your story. There's a rumor that you're really, really good at this so I'm hoping to learn quite a bit along the way.
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Eeek. The pressure. Honestly, I'm totally making this all up as I go. :)
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:12pm
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Just had someone give my half-story a beat read, and I don't feel quite so at sea. THANK YOU! You know who you are. Now, back at it!
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Posted By: Vernacula
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:25pm
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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Posted By: RichmondRoad
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:27pm
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I am three words into it. Don’t be intimidated by that, the time zone difference gave me a bit of a head start. The first two words I am really happy with but the third just doesn’t look right. I’m new at this. Is the first sentence too early to be using more than two syllables?
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Posted By: nod1v1ng
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:32pm
Vernacula wrote:
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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LOL
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:34pm
Vernacula wrote:
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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So...feeling better. That's something!
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Posted By: E-to-the-Day
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:35pm
Killing it
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Posted By: MrLipto
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:36pm
Fantasy (Cool, all I wanted was something I hadn’t done before.) Scavenger Hunt (uh... okay, yeah. Why not? Gives the story structure.) Mother in law (huh. Fine.)
Stayed awake until (fifth?) idea came. Scribbled notes.
Today, outline, 1200 words. Garbage. But the only job of a first draft is to get written. Can’t improve what doesn’t exist yet and FFC2017 taught me that everything happens in revision. So: finish crap draft Sunday, then improve it all week.
Wrecking ball, then sledgehammer, then chisel, then scalpel.
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:42pm
RichmondRoad wrote:
I am three words into it. Don’t be intimidated by that, the time zone difference gave me a bit of a head start. The first two words I am really happy with but the third just doesn’t look right. I’m new at this. Is the first sentence too early to be using more than two syllables? |
First line should have one two syllable word.
It was a dark and stormy night...
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:45pm
Vernacula wrote:
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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I actually had to look up 'churro'. Now I'm trying to decide if I should be embarrassed.
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Posted By: Vernacula
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:48pm
Random wrote:
Vernacula wrote:
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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I actually had to look up 'churro'. Now I'm trying to decide if I should be embarrassed.
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For me or for you?

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Posted By: Vernacula
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2018 at 11:58pm
Lookit There wrote:
Vernacula wrote:
I'm eating a churro.
That's my complete update.
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So...feeling better. That's something! |
Yes! After hardly being able to look at food for days, it hit the spot. Now I feel like there's something else I should be doing, I just can't remember what it is. I'm sure it will come to me...
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Posted By: velocisarah
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:09am
I've got about 600 words of possible story outlines, and a research document full of information about metals and steam ships and first flights. I'm ahead of where I was this time last year, and I'm excited for two of my potential plots, so I'm chalking that down as going well so far :)
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Posted By: TheDustyZebra
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:51am
RichmondRoad wrote:
I am three words into it. Don’t be intimidated by that, the time zone difference gave me a bit of a head start. |
So by this time tomorrow I might expect to have three words, then? That's good to know. I love talking to people from the future.
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:01am
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So in the spirit of "nothing's every easy," I'm about 1500 words in to my story when I hear yelling from the other room.
My 12 year old broke his wrist horsing around with his younger brother.
This happened about an hour ago. So yeah. That's how I'm doing.
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Posted By: Bowbina76
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:01am
I was actually pumped about the idea I came up with and now I almost feel like abandoning it. Fantasy, speech impediment and matchmaker. I resolved to include a banshee...but the definition on NYC site states fantasy does not involve a macabre plot. Would that mean a banshee would make it macabre? How close to the lines can I get without being disqualified? 
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Posted By: uglypantsuit
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:14am
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Been thinking about it for the last 24 hours, now starting my outline. I feel like I have a great idea - it's just making it work within the confines of the story and working through all the details that's freaking me out. Argh.
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Posted By: GallifreyGirl
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:19am
Bowbina76 wrote:
I was actually pumped about the idea I came up with and now I almost feel like abandoning it. Fantasy, speech impediment and matchmaker. I resolved to include a banshee...but the definition on NYC site states fantasy does not involve a macabre plot. Would that mean a banshee would make it macabre? How close to the lines can I get without being disqualified?  |
Hey, I'm in the same group!
If it makes you feel any better, my story is super dark. I don't want to say it's a horror mashup, because there's no gore, and I'm still noodling but ... at this point, pretty sure my MC isn't going to make it out alive.
Also, as an aside, I started writing this as a romcom mashup and clearly I need therapy and/or to stop watching Frozen because my handsome human prince is an asshole now.
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Posted By: penelopecarax
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:31am
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Snap! Also on the same group as you guys, and also struggling with the darkness of my story (vs lightness of my protagonist). Went through 15 ideas to get to this one so hope you're not struggling with this theme as much as I am!
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Posted By: Bowbina76
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:39am
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ok - there is hope! I'm going to plummet into depths of this story and hopefully make sense out of this! thank you heatmate. :)
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Posted By: uglypantsuit
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:41am
Bowbina76 wrote:
I was actually pumped about the idea I came up with and now I almost feel like abandoning it. Fantasy, speech impediment and matchmaker. I resolved to include a banshee...but the definition on NYC site states fantasy does not involve a macabre plot. Would that mean a banshee would make it macabre? How close to the lines can I get without being disqualified?  |
NYC Midnight cites GRRM's A Song of Ice and Fire as an example of fantasy... so I'd say you should be able to get pretty darn close to the macabre line.
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:51am
Bowbina76 wrote:
I was actually pumped about the idea I came up with and now I almost feel like abandoning it. Fantasy, speech impediment and matchmaker. I resolved to include a banshee...but the definition on NYC site states fantasy does not involve a macabre plot. Would that mean a banshee would make it macabre? How close to the lines can I get without being disqualified?  |
Depends on how you write her. ;)
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Posted By: Katerstomaters
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:57am
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I'm shocked that I have just completed my first draft! I hit a stride and I think it's pretty good! I actually need to pare it down, as I am over the maximum word limit. Definitely need some tweaking.
But man, Comedy and "eulogy" is ROUGH! You can do it!
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 2:14am
Random wrote:
SheriLS wrote:
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There are quite a few people here that fall into that category. Just nice folks; able to disagree without being disagreeable, always willing to listen and able to express themselves. I love that.
The exceptions aren't worth getting into a twist over.
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Exactly. We have a great group of folks here, who are very supportive and able to communicate and even critique in respectful, helpful ways.
I have said it before and I am sure some are tired of hearing it - but NYCM is the most cost-effective writers seminar you will ever find. :) and our forumites are some rly awesome people.
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Posted By: lelder
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 2:33am
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Just finished pounding out the first draft. At more than 300 words over the limit it's definitely bloated. I'll start paring it down, maybe get some extra eyes on it in the coming days.
Drama/Hitchhiking/Doctor
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 2:39am
Katerstomaters wrote:
I'm shocked that I have just completed my first draft! I hit a stride and I think it's pretty good! I actually need to pare it down, as I am over the maximum word limit. Definitely need some tweaking.
But man, Comedy and "eulogy" is ROUGH! You can do it! |
Hey, heat mate! Boy, you aren't kidding! Comedy - HARD! Eulogy - SUPER HARD!
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Posted By: vanwijk88
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 2:58am
Of course I struck lucky and got historical fiction as a genre when I was planning to squeeze this competition into an already busy week. :/ Haven't put a single word to paper yet but am planning to scrape my memory and pick an era that I studied in high school history to hopefully save time. :/
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Posted By: Heartstart
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 2:58am
Bowbina76 wrote:
I was actually pumped about the idea I came up with and now I almost feel like abandoning it. Fantasy, speech impediment and matchmaker. I resolved to include a banshee...but the definition on NYC site states fantasy does not involve a macabre plot. Would that mean a banshee would make it macabre? How close to the lines can I get without being disqualified?  |
I would think a banshee would fit into the fantasy genre well. Unless there was a lot of gore or terror or gruesome deaths associated with the banshee, it shouldn't be disqualified.
On topic, I've written about 1200 words so far, but most of them are pretty rough (Group 61: horror, house cleaning, a jester).
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Posted By: TheDustyZebra
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 3:19am
Katerstomaters wrote:
But man, Comedy and "eulogy" is ROUGH! You can do it! |
If it helps any, one of my family's favorite stories (no idea if it was true or apocryphal) was about a preacher at a funeral who began, standing in front of the casket, with "What you see before you now is just a shell. The nut is gone."
We... err... have been known to utter those words at family funerals over the years.
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Posted By: scriber
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 3:28am
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About 1000 words in. I don't think that's bad for historical fiction. A lot of time was also wasted fretting about the use of flashbacks without writing in first person. Then I remembered Margaret Atwood has a few books with extensive flashbacks.
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Posted By: rossinny
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 3:56am
Despite having prompts I like (ghost story, first day at new job, chemist), I am getting nowhere fast. I can't settle on THE idea. Normally my idea comes quite quickly so this is odd, and unsettling. I may just need to start writing and see what evolves, which is about as far removed from my normal planned, structured approach as possible.
If nothing works, I'll try the churro approach.
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Posted By: Fangirl78
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 4:12am
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Pretty sure I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight and dream of political foibles narrated by Stephen Colbert. I think I'm overthinking it. That's about par for the course, tho, right? Bueller? Mueller? LOL But hey, I haven't given up and swan dived into a gallon of whiskey yet, so BULLY FOR ME!
political satire/a resignation/a stockbroker
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Posted By: LyndaD
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 4:52am
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I started with one idea, hated it, and now have switched to something else, and am about 800 words in.
I've got the historical era anchored decently, and I know when the mutiny will happen. However, I haven't yet established that the child is homeless. The child is an integral character, and being homeless will be key, once it's revealed. I wonder if it'll be okay that the reveal happens halfway or so through the story?
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Posted By: Scarlet Screenwriter
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 5:03am
Well, I got the kernel ... my idea and central character ... wrote my title and logline ... and started to pound out 500 words ... but felt odd, knowing I had seven days to go ... I'm used to the tight deadline of Screenplay or Flash Fiction ... Maybe eight days is too much ...
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:24am
lisafox10800 wrote:
So in the spirit of "nothing's every easy," I'm about 1500 words in to my story when I hear yelling from the other room.
My 12 year old broke his wrist horsing around with his younger brother.
This happened about an hour ago. So yeah. That's how I'm doing. |
That's lovely. Given it's his wrist I'm imagining all kinds of mechanisms of injury that will make it even lovelier. Wrist means hand and forearm; have them put a pink cast on... 
I woke up mostly dead this morning, and I blame Vernacula. I think she coughed on a post over in another thread and I caught the edge of whatever she's had.
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Posted By: SheriLS
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:29am
I have 288 words... I like 88 of them lol
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:51am
Random wrote:
lisafox10800 wrote:
So in the spirit of "nothing's every easy," I'm about 1500 words in to my story when I hear yelling from the other room.
My 12 year old broke his wrist horsing around with his younger brother.
This happened about an hour ago. So yeah. That's how I'm doing. |
That's lovely. Given it's his wrist I'm imagining all kinds of mechanisms of injury that will make it even lovelier. Wrist means hand and forearm; have them put a pink cast on... [IMG]smileys/smiley4.gif" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile[
I woke up mostly dead this morning, and I blame Vernacula. I think she coughed on a post over in another thread and I caught the edge of whatever she's had.
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Thanks... he’s just hoping for a cast that people can sign, apparently the one they put on him at urgent care doesn’t quite fit the bill. 12 year old priorities and all that.
And I hope you feel better! Need to watch out for those online viruses, they’ll get you every time. Seriously, tea with lemon and honey does wonders. Take care of yourself. And the good news is we still have a long road before the submission deadline.
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Posted By: Lookit There
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:55am
Scarlet Screenwriter wrote:
Well, I got the kernel ... my idea and central character ... wrote my title and logline ... and started to pound out 500 words ... but felt odd, knowing I had seven days to go ... I'm used to the tight deadline of Screenplay or Flash Fiction ... Maybe eight days is too much ...
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That's kind of what I keep thinking, "Don't worry, you've got all week, slow down." Except I've got a killer week at work ahead of me, and there's no way I'm going to feel like coming home and writing for hours on end. I want next Saturday to be set aside for sprucing up what's basically finished. So...this weekend is crunch time.
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Posted By: angelagilbert
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:59am
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I've never deleted so much in my life.
I have an idea I am stubbornly refusing to let go of because I love it in theory. I just need to make it work on the damn page.
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:31pm
lisafox10800 wrote:
Thanks... he’s just hoping for a cast that people can sign, apparently the one they put on him at urgent care doesn’t quite fit the bill. 12 year old priorities and all that.
And I hope you feel better! Need to watch out for those online viruses, they’ll get you every time. Seriously, tea with lemon and honey does wonders. Take care of yourself. And the good news is we still have a long road before the submission deadline. |
Casts have come so far since I've put one on. Back in my day it was plaster; they're exothermic, so you roast in them until they set. When we crossed the line on Wog day we put the XO (Buggs Beida, Hitler Youth Leader) in a body cast and winched him up, but we had to keep an attack hose on him so he wouldn't burn. The idea of hosing down the XO with seawater was appealing, but watching him cook like a roast had some appeal also.
You say that like the priorities of twelve year old males might in some slight way be different than, say, everyone else on the planet. It's not his fault you're wrong.
I have the Micky Mouse mug I bought in 2009 when we took my mother-in-law to Disneyland (...your only daughter just married an American, what are you going to do next?) full of hot green tea. I have honey from Ljubljana (really, really good stuff). No lemon. Two out of three can't be bad.
Okay, I need to go back to my outline. It's been pointed out that it's 'safe'. Not bad, just safe. I'm going to continue with safe and think about dangerous.
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Posted By: Lord Xoon
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:32pm
That extra 1500 words is such a luxury. I feel like I’m going from a twin bed to a California king.
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:32pm
rossinny wrote:
If nothing works, I'll try the churro approach. |
Vernacula's guide to writing. <3 rofl
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:33pm
Scarlet Screenwriter wrote:
Well, I got the kernel ... my idea and central character ... wrote my title and logline ... and started to pound out 500 words ... but felt odd, knowing I had seven days to go ... I'm used to the tight deadline of Screenplay or Flash Fiction ... Maybe eight days is too much ...
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Only if you overcook it.
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Posted By: spildit
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:33pm
I got crime caper/online shopping/ a ne'er-do-well, and I'm pretty stumped.
Well, I've got an idea, but I'm not sure if it focusses enough on the online shopping part ... or if anything else in it is going to work. Maybe it'll all come clear when I actually drag the ideas out of my head and onto the screen.
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Posted By: taylorcole
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:41pm
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I have the fairytale genre (yikes) and I am having a hard time making it...fairytale-y. Fairytales fall into this rigid structure of good and evil, magical creatures, and a valiant hero. I feel like it can be difficult to make this genre original without mixing in other genres.
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Posted By: lisafox10800
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:47pm
taylorcole wrote:
I have the fairytale genre (yikes) and I am having a hard time making it...fairytale-y. Fairytales fall into this rigid structure of good and evil, magical creatures, and a valiant hero. I feel like it can be difficult to make this genre original without mixing in other genres. |
Genre mixing is ok as long as you primarily make it look and feel like a fairytale. (I mashed up political satire with fairytale last year, but it was too much fairytale and not strong enough on the satire and it cost me).
Don't forget that a moral or a life lesson needs to be in there somewhere (as opposed to fantasy, where you can just write about a dragon battle if you want).
And if you twist a trope inside out, you can make it original.
Good luck!
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:58pm
taylorcole wrote:
I have the fairytale genre (yikes) and I am having a hard time making it...fairytale-y. Fairytales fall into this rigid structure of good and evil, magical creatures, and a valiant hero. I feel like it can be difficult to make this genre original without mixing in other genres. |
Some guy named Walt took the fairy tale and made it all happy and bright and the sixteen year old girl marries the handsome prince who is subsequently arrested and does thirty to life, but that's after the closing credits. Heck, look what they did to Victor Hugo.
If you look at the original source material (HCA, Grimm) some of those are DARK! Rusalka (the Little Mermaid) is condemned to an eternity of damnation because her handsome prince was a complete $rectalSphincter.
A Fairy tale is what you make it as long as it has all the requisite ingredients (eye of newt, tongue of serpent, slime of frog...).
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Posted By: nixie
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:06pm
Random wrote:
Some guy named Walt took the fairy tale and made it all happy and bright and the sixteen year old girl marries the handsome prince who is subsequently arrested and does thirty to life, but that's after the closing credits. Heck, look what they did to Victor Hugo.
If you look at the original source material (HCA, Grimm) some of those are DARK! Rusalka (the Little Mermaid) is condemned to an eternity of damnation because her handsome prince was a complete $rectalSphincter.
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Aint it the truth.
Fairy Tales were designed as morality tales for children - to teach them of the dangers of the world.
If you're uncertain about whether your tale constitutes 'fairy tale' (as opposed to fantasy), I find that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Propp#Functions" rel="nofollow - Propp's Morphology provides a pretty good guide.
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Posted By: kirstenkvaale
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:20pm
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Does the word count have to be near 2500? Has anyone ever submitted a very short story for the first round?
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:23pm
kirstenkvaale wrote:
Does the word count have to be near 2500? Has anyone ever submitted a very short story for the first round? |
Rules specifically call out no minimum word count, so if you can build your world and turn it in less than that there's no penalty. As for success in doing so, one of the more experience people may have some insight.
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Posted By: writerlykate
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:55pm
The usual rule is to keep within 10%. So at a pinch you could produce 2250 and not be penalised. Remember the next two rounds have lower word counts so it’s best not to write too little or it shows you are unable to develop characters, place, include dialogue, structure story etc. In the word count given.
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Posted By: MattrickBT
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:57pm
I'm almost ready to start tomorrow!
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Posted By: Random
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 1:58pm
nixie wrote:
Aint it the truth.
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Girl meets boy Girl gives up everything for boy Boy spurns girl Boy realizes what he gave away, but not until it's too late Girl forgives boy Girl dies/is eternally damned
It's all over literature and opera. Mandama Butterfly still kills me (though having the 15 year old Cio-Cio-san played by a 60-something soprano does blunt the impact slightly; sorry, lady, if you didn't see that coming it's your own fault).
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