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    Posted: 12 May 2020 at 4:37pm
Hi, I'm new to this so I just wanted to know if, when we post our stories to a forum, we retain legal ownership of them. Or does being in the public domain carry a degree of risk of having them stolen or copied (considering that they haven't been published before)?

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You retain all the rights to the stories you create during the competition and that doesn't change if you choose to share your stories in the forum.  Of course, there is always the risk of having your work copied if it's visible online or in print, but as the owner you would be able to pursue it legally if necessary since the copyright is technically created as soon as you create the work.  

We do make the forums secure and they are inaccessible to anyone that is not a registered member of the forums.  Please let us know if you have any other questions or need anything else.  Thanks and stay safe!
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If we wanted to publish a short story that we submitted to this competition, are we allowed to do that?
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Originally posted by Jrountree Jrountree wrote:

If we wanted to publish a short story that we submitted to this competition, are we allowed to do that?

As far as NYCM is concerned, yes, it's in their rules, explicitly, that the author retains ownership. However, if you published it in such a way that anyone, not just someone in a private forum with a link provided there can read it, many publishers will regard that as publication, meaning places that don't accept reprints won't want it.
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Jennifer is completely correct, but if it’s your story just go with it. It’s still all yours to do what you want.

If someone is so picky or unsupportive, go somewhere else. :)
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Thanks for the clear and helpful reply
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Creators always own their creations from the moment of the first letter on your screen. Or the first stroke of a pen. Or the first grave of a chisel.

You can assign your rights to someone else, of course. But until you do, you own all rights to your property, instantly, upon creation and not completion.

There are always those who act in bad faith. Some in full knowledge and without care. More than half the world has governments who assist in such stealing because "hey, we need to make a buck." Some with the tiniest shred of discomfort that they're stealing, but they call it "exposure" and "personal use," defending it with "Well, I can't afford to consume your work. So I gotta steal it. You understand." And some will boast that they are doing it, in public, because they know the cost of you trying to assert your ownership is so expensive that you won't even try. You will meet some of these people here, in these forums, who will say with no shame that they download everything to their own computers. I know it can seem like a violation of the spirit of our openness and community. But we live in the world as it is, not as we would want it to be.

You honestly cannot fight back too much because it will exhaust you. You just have to be prudent, and decide if the risk of others behaving as selfish humans and stealing your work is worth letting the rest of us who behave with grace to see your work.

No one is under your control but you. Like everyone in this world, we must make risks to trust people, because without trust community ends. And trust, when broken, is difficult or even impossible to restore. But without some trust, you will have neither friends nor neighbors.
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Hi,

I would like to publish some of the stories I wrote for the previous flash fiction and short story challenge in the short story collection. The stories have been heavily revised after challenges, with feedback from the judges and additional beta readers after that, but still contain assigned categories (e.g. Genre, object, person, action etc.). As I understand, we retain all the publishing rights, however, one aspect confuses me. The rules say that the asigned categories are a property of NYC Midnight. What does that mean? Are stories then fully mine to publish, or do I have some obligations towards NYC midnight - e.g. mentioning in a foreword that's where stories were first submitted? I anyhow planned to mention that, but in any case I would like a clarification of the "ownership of assigned categories" by NYC midnight implies for the publishing rights and any obligations.

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Originally posted by M K Marteens M K Marteens wrote:

Hi,

I would like to publish some of the stories I wrote for the previous flash fiction and short story challenge in the short story collection. The stories have been heavily revised after challenges, with feedback from the judges and additional beta readers after that, but still contain assigned categories (e.g. Genre, object, person, action etc.). As I understand, we retain all the publishing rights, however, one aspect confuses me. The rules say that the asigned categories are a property of NYC Midnight. What does that mean? Are stories then fully mine to publish, or do I have some obligations towards NYC midnight - e.g. mentioning in a foreword that's where stories were first submitted? I anyhow planned to mention that, but in any case I would like a clarification of the "ownership of assigned categories" by NYC midnight implies for the publishing rights and any obligations.

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This is something that NYCM can answer, of course, but even then, you should see the counsel of a lawyer whenever you need to inquire about your rights.

I'm certainly no lawyer. I'd guess that the meaning is "don't take our contest stuff and use it to run your own contest." So your work is yours. Don't go out and set up your own "Iceland Midnight Writing Competition" and use these exact genre/subject/object prompts.

But what a great idea for the name of the contest! 3 months to write a short story! LOL
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Originally posted by M K Marteens M K Marteens wrote:

Hi,

I would like to publish some of the stories I wrote for the previous flash fiction and short story challenge in the short story collection. The stories have been heavily revised after challenges, with feedback from the judges and additional beta readers after that, but still contain assigned categories (e.g. Genre, object, person, action etc.). As I understand, we retain all the publishing rights, however, one aspect confuses me. The rules say that the asigned categories are a property of NYC Midnight. What does that mean? Are stories then fully mine to publish, or do I have some obligations towards NYC midnight - e.g. mentioning in a foreword that's where stories were first submitted? I anyhow planned to mention that, but in any case I would like a clarification of the "ownership of assigned categories" by NYC midnight implies for the publishing rights and any obligations.

Thank you! 

The rule regarding ownership of the assigned prompt classifications does not apply to the submissions and is only meant to prevent anyone from using the same assignments for other competitions.  You are not required to mention us at all when submitting to other publications and you retain all the rights to the submissions your create during the competitions.  Please let us know if you have any other questions or need anything else.  Good luck!
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