NYC Midnight : Creative Writing & Screenwriting Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > GENERAL DISCUSSION > Creative Writing Corner
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Hidden nuggets in your story
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Hidden nuggets in your story

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 6>
Author
Message
JanetM View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict
Avatar

Joined: 15 Jul 2017
Location: Dundas, Ontario
Status: Offline
Points: 1076
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JanetM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Hidden nuggets in your story
    Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 4:45pm
Just wondering if anyone wanted to share any hidden nuggets in their story that they are afraid the judges might miss.

It's an often discussed thing in the forum: the fear that the judges will miss any subtle (or not so subtle) details or "read between the lines" story bits during their reading of hundreds of stories. I'm sure that there are some procrastinating judges that have to read a bunch of stories in a short timeframe. Hopefully not, but knowing some real life people...Wink

AND it's too bad, because that's usually something that makes a great story: dots of brilliance, that you, as a reader, connect later. Am I right?

I had an idea for my romance this flash fiction round that I'd have the couple, as their inside layers are revealed, would lose outside layers- of clothing. They went from scuba gear, to evening wear to swimsuits. It didn't work out since- flash fiction- I spent no time describing the clothing. LOL

Anyway, did you have any hidden nuggets in your story that you are afraid the judges might miss? Any foreshadowing, symbolism, etc. you want to see if we can find?
R2 G49 Flash
Someone to Count On
R1 Gr63 Microfiction
Flecksof Green
Back to Top
steph9289 View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Black Belt
NYC Midnight Black Belt
Avatar

Joined: 23 Jan 2016
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Status: Offline
Points: 6755
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote steph9289 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 4:50pm
I have more of an Easter Egg in mine! A reference to a piece of literature that I put in there purposely. No one has pointed it out, so I'm not sure if anyone has even noticed it yet!
Short Screen R1G1 Eat Dessert First (Ghost Story)
Micro Fiction R2G3 +256 Meters (Sci-Fi)
Back to Top
JanetM View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict
Avatar

Joined: 15 Jul 2017
Location: Dundas, Ontario
Status: Offline
Points: 1076
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JanetM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by steph9289 steph9289 wrote:

I have more of an Easter Egg in mine! A reference to a piece of literature that I put in there purposely. No one has pointed it out, so I'm not sure if anyone has even noticed it yet!

Ooooo! Yeah! I haven't read yours yet! I will read it tonight! Smile
R2 G49 Flash
Someone to Count On
R1 Gr63 Microfiction
Flecksof Green
Back to Top
Zelda View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Black Belt
NYC Midnight Black Belt
Avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 2784
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Zelda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 9:29pm
Great topic! Smile A few years ago, I wrote a story about a woman who was severely detached from reality. She observed everything from outside of herself. At the beginning of the story, the cops show up at the back of the funeral home, and she acknowledges their presence in her narration (she's the narrator). At the end of the story, the cops move in and arrest her husband, and she thinks, "Oh, the cops are here. When did they show up?" or something like that. Maybe it was, "Oh, the cops are here. Have they been here all along?" I don't quite recall. Anyway, one judge said, "Do you realize you had the cops at the beginning of the story? I couldn't tell if it was an oversight on your part or if the narrator was forgetful." (Hello. It was the entire psychological theme of my story.) And I was an honorable mention that round, so I was SO FREAKIN' FRUSTRATED at that judge's lack of comprehension that I wanted to scream. 

Then the moment passed, and I ate some ice cream instead. 

With my current story, I named one of my characters Denver because my favorite aunt has always lived in Denver (as well as Washington). I do a lot of stuff with names like that. 
< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_off">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black_back">
Back to Top
JanetM View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict
Avatar

Joined: 15 Jul 2017
Location: Dundas, Ontario
Status: Offline
Points: 1076
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JanetM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 9:43am
Originally posted by JanetM JanetM wrote:

Originally posted by steph9289 steph9289 wrote:

I have more of an Easter Egg in mine! A reference to a piece of literature that I put in there purposely. No one has pointed it out, so I'm not sure if anyone has even noticed it yet!


I can't figure it out! I DID learn that Miss Martha brings up an American children's author, but I doubt she wrote anything about time travel unless Jesus was in the spaceship. OR maybe she didn't believe in dinosaurs and there's the funny part? #NancyDrew
R2 G49 Flash
Someone to Count On
R1 Gr63 Microfiction
Flecksof Green
Back to Top
JanetM View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict
Avatar

Joined: 15 Jul 2017
Location: Dundas, Ontario
Status: Offline
Points: 1076
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote JanetM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 9:50am
Originally posted by Zelda Zelda wrote:

 Anyway, one judge said, "Do you realize you had the cops at the beginning of the story? I couldn't tell if it was an oversight on your part or if the narrator was forgetful." (Hello. It was the entire psychological theme of my story.) And I was an honorable mention that round, so I was SO FREAKIN' FRUSTRATED at that judge's lack of comprehension that I wanted to scream. 

Then the moment passed, and I ate some ice cream instead. 

With my current story, I named one of my characters Denver because my favorite aunt has always lived in Denver (as well as Washington). I do a lot of stuff with names like that.

That's so frustrating! I hate that when you have 2 judges loving the story and 1 that doesn't- but to completely miss the point of the story. 

Also crazy that they thought you were unaware of the thing that you WROTE in your story. LOL Do they not realize how many times you read your story over...and over? (or is that just me?)

Fun on the names! That's a personal hidden nugget. Clap
R2 G49 Flash
Someone to Count On
R1 Gr63 Microfiction
Flecksof Green
Back to Top
Dvmason View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Regular
NYC Midnight Regular
Avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2018
Location: Galveston
Status: Offline
Points: 313
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Dvmason Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Zelda Zelda wrote:


Then the moment passed, and I ate some ice cream instead. 

With my current story, I named one of my characters Denver because my favorite aunt has always lived in Denver (as well as Washington). I do a lot of stuff with names like that.

Ice cream is also my go to, just reading your story was so frustrating though I felt like I needed some! 

I’m always doing little inside jokes with my names too. My MC is a nod to Greek mythology based on her personal “gifts” that a few readers did point out which was great. Also the supporting characters name is “Pierce” which is a bit of a pun (also, sounds like a good name for a jerk). 

Once I had political satire and skateboard as my object and a brewery as my location. I had the skateboard be the presentation for a beer sampler (usually called a “flight”, here just called a “skate”). The little beers were set into the board and the drinker could move it a little to the left or a little to the right, but it wouldn’t change much. The whole story was a metaphor for the political system (you could select two beers for the flight, named basically red or blue, but at the end you follow the bartender back and they come from the same kegs). The skateboard metaphor was totally lost on judges and compatriots, but now that I’m explaining it again, that isn’t really surprising. There was a lot going on. 

Once I had a prompt for suspense, brainwashing and gem stone collectors and did a retelling of the Snow White story where Snow (here named “Nieva” Spanish for “snow”) was brainwashing her 7 roommates to give her gems. One judge had absolutely no idea and I got some complaints about how weird the name was (it’s fairly popular downsouth/ in latinx community).


Anyway, GREAT THREAD! Most of my nuggets are entirely for myself. But I can’t tell you the joy that it brings when one is found and my overthinking is -for once- celebrated




Back to Top
mhelgens View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict


Joined: 16 Jul 2017
Location: Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 654
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote mhelgens Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 12:35pm
I wouldn’t call this a hidden nugget because I thought it was obvious, but a couple years ago I wrote a ghost story about a little girl who died in the Holocaust. At the end, there was a scene in the Holocaust museum that featured the huge pile of victims’ shoes that they have on display there. The little girl’s shoe buckle was also a sort of talisman for the main character throughout the whole story, and he found that shoe buckle in the pile of shoes at the end, revealing the child’s past for the first time. So I titled my story The Soles That Survive, and so many people on the forums complimented my word play with the reference to the shoes. But one of my judges thought it was just a typo and proceeded to explain to me the difference between “souls” and “soles.” I got an honorable mention that round. If only I’d have played it safer and abandoned the word puns, maybe I would have placed.... jk there was plenty wrong with that story, but that was still incredibly frustrating. 
Read my Round 1 story WORKING MY WAY BACK TO YOU
--I will return all feedback :)
Back to Top
Zelda View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Black Belt
NYC Midnight Black Belt
Avatar

Joined: 24 Jan 2017
Status: Offline
Points: 2784
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Zelda Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 4:31pm
To Steph: I wanna find it! I'm on it! I'll tab over there in a minute. Smile

To JanetM: Ooh, there's a term for it? Awesome! Personal hidden nugget!! Yeah, I do a lot of those with names, for some reason! 

To Dvmason: I love "Pierce" as a double entendre (is that the term?). Very nice! And, you've just summed up one of my biggest fears of being assigned political satire--no one getting your satire. How frustrating! Your premise for that one seems brilliant to me! And I think Nieva is a gorgeous name! When I took Spanish, the teacher asked us to choose a Spanish name for ourselves on the first day of class. She gave us a list of possible names. I had a classmate named Hope who chose to be called Esperanza, which wasn't on the list, but it's Spanish for "hope". I always thought that was brilliant, and I like how you hid meaning in the translation of Nieva! 

To mhelgens: Oh, no, tell me the judges didn't react that way. You're got to be kidding me. I feel your pain. 
< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_off">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black_back">
< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_off">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_highcontrast_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_grayscale_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_back">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_invert_grayscale">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black">< x="0" y="0" width="99999" height="99999" id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black_back">


Edited by Zelda - 31 Jul 2019 at 4:31pm
Back to Top
Alex Grey View Drop Down
NYC Midnight Addict
NYC Midnight Addict
Avatar

Joined: 27 Jan 2019
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 1283
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Alex Grey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 2019 at 5:43pm
I like to use foreign words for names; in SSC one of my characters, a radiant supermodel, was called "Susulu" which means "Shine" in Samoan.

I love using Google translate to generate names but I have to resist the temptation to explain myself in the text (unless it's relevant to the plot) because no-one likes a smart alec! :-)
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 6>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.094 seconds.