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ursanz
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See Agatha Christie comment above :)
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BaliFan
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Judges can be all over the map. I've had worse experiences in Flash than here, so far, including a judge who said that a female character operating in a group of guys (genre - romantic comedy) should have had a fling with one of the guys before the romantic lead showed up - because right, a woman in a group of men ALWAYS has a fling with one of them. Then there was the judge who thought they knew more about Japan than I do - and I live in Japan. And the judges who don't seem to have read your story at all....
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SFC
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To your two points: EXACTLY. I mean, having the gender be non-relevant can be just as much of a story-telling technique as anything else. To think otherwise just reveals the old-fashioned/narrow-minded view of the judge. Especially in micro, where I think it would be required of a judge to read things very thoughtfully? (edited for typo)
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SFC
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I'M SORRY this is so not funny but I'm laughing because it's just so unbelievable. I know we make our own choices to be a part of this and receive this judging but... since we're paying, a little bit of quality control would be nice, is all I'm sayin'.
omg no... that is like, beyond explanation? I don't think I have EVER described what a character is wearing in Flash, unless it's something relevant like... a hazmat suit or something lol |
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SFC
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Yeah... I definitely understand the idea that some people prefer to be able to picture a character fully in their minds to be able to relate to the character or understand their story better... but, especially in Flash, I just think that a potent story can be told without having to give away too much information. It just stinks when you think you've lost points because someone has a hard time connecting to a character that hasn't been gendered for possibly those reasons - that they think gender "tells" us a lot about them. I'm of the mindset that it really doesn't. (And the one judge I also quoted seemed to have no problem with it? Which just makes it confusing) I mean - they can rip the story to shreds if they want to! I drink constructive criticism up like fine wine. But when the complaint revolves around something that is considerably negligible to the whole plot... I don't know.
Yes, yes, and YES. If even one or two more of the judges had said something, I would consider that I hadn't written the character correctly, but just one of five having a problem? I think it's only right that we question some judges abilities and give proper feedback.
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SFC
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omg WHY??? I'm sorry, it's not actually funny, but like you said - comical. What can you do but shake your head (and feedback, of course!)
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I'm pretty sure that's Holly Lisle. But maybe she was quoting Gaiman. (?) I got my feedback last night and am equally frustrated. I know I shouldn't complain, since I did come in second, but for crying out loud, my MC's name is not Lucy.
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I once had a judge comment that the piece didn't make sense to them until they realised it was about two people playing a table top game.
It was, in fact, not about that. There was no indication it was about that. None of the beta readers thought it was about that. Honestly, still not even sure how the judge game to that conclusion, but maaaan i would love have been a fly on the wall for that one
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Chelle Moriarty
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... Totally looking forward to my feedback now. I'm glad a read through this thread. I'm usually pretty good at taking constructive crit but if someone misses a big, obvious point in my work I tend to get a bit twitchy. If I got critism like that from a judge without being prepared for the possibility of it, I'm not sure how I'd feel. Thanks!
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I will say it's rare. This is the second time in 13 rounds that I've done that I genuinely went to "what the hell" at my feedback. For me, the only stung so badly that it was in the most important round of all lmao. But take heart! They're truly not all bad, even if the worst is appalling.
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