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JeffreyHowe
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Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 10:26am |
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PART ONE 1128 entries 200 advanced The "I know what I did wrong" award: one entrant with a zero in round one got a fifteen in round two. The "It was this weekend?" award: two entrants had 15s in round one and zeroes in round two The "Coast and boast" award: two entrants had 15s in round one, dropped to 2s in round two, and advanced. The "At the wire" award: one entrant had a 2 in round one, a 14 in round two, and advanced (one of two 16s to advance) Advancing entrants: Average round one score 11.59 Average round two score 11.53 Median score for both rounds 12 (yay for rounding) Average total 23.11 (yay for rounding error) |
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weebil
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I also noticed that a lot of the top finishers did very well in both rounds, which would imply a solid non-bias in regard to recognizing successful writing skills.
I, on the other hand, got a 3, and then a 11, and I actually thought the first script was stronger-but maybe it was just the concept. I didn't really like my second script. Sigh. I'm out, but always happy to be creating. (a 11? an 11? so much to know) See ya next time!
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lisafox10800
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The other interesting thing is that there were a LOT of Round 2 drop offs across groups. If you look at the scoring, some groups had no one score a 1, 2, or even a 3 in some cases. Implying there were not enough participants to pick up these scores. If you cross reference to Round 1, in most cases it was those who did not score points in Round 1 who dropped off in Round 2.
I understand life happens and all of that and sometimes the time you think you have for this disappears with other commitments, but having run the gamut on scoring from 0 points through 15 and everything in between, if you get a zero in round one that should light a fire to come back roaring in the second challenge. (My first 15 pointer came on the heels of a round one goose-egg. I missed out on advancing by three points, but boy did I feel at least a little bit vindicated). Anyway. Just something I observed looking at the scoring last night. |
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Snarkmaiden
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I noticed that too, and that would mean that in some groups only 12 or 13 people were actually competing for the marks - which would explain why a lot of people scored highly in both rounds. Fewer competitors, and the high-scoring first round writers predominantly the ones staying on. If the full spread of ~30 writers did both rounds I think the overall scores would be lower, because demonstrably a good writer can have a bad judge (or a bad day) and get a 0, and then come back with a 15 the next time.
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JeffreyHowe
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Good eye! And if memory serves, last year someone did what you did with the 0/15 and actually advanced, so it's always worth a shot, IMHO.
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JeffreyHowe
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Although as Weebil noted above, it does seem as if a lot of people who advanced did well both times. Interesting if both hypotheses are true. Let me crunch some numbers...
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Tim G
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Intriguing! Thanks for the mindfood Jeffrey and Lisa!
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I just feel bad for the carnage that is group 39. Three scorers with 17, only one went through -- even though their point distribution matched one of the other contestant's, 2-15, 15-2. Ouch.
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I can't post the chart, but the numbers for variability suggest advancing writers are on the whole less subject to large swings in scores. First column is the magnitude (with +/- disregarded) of the change between rounds, the second and third columns are the percentage of writers with that magnitude of change. 57.5% of advancing writers had a change of 3 or less; only 39.6% of non-advancing writers did. Conversely, only 6.5% of advancing writers had a "swing" of 10 or more points between rounds, while 16.9% of non-advancing writers did.
I omitted all total scores of zero. Of the remainder, 200 writers advanced, 508 did not. As to people dropping out boosting the second round scores--certainly the groups in round two where fewer than fifteen people came back are going to bump up averages a point or two. And it's possible, though not extremely likely, that one or two of the groups where 16s or 17s made the cut might have had a couple of people different people advancing, especially given the second round's primacy in tie-breaking criteria.
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BrianaNichol
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How did they choose the winner for that?
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