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Auralia
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Topic: Romance = HEA?Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 7:50am |
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This is my first year of NYC anything, and my first SSC. Group 58 prompts are Romance: Allergic, Music Teacher. Frankly, I've never written a romance because I'm allergic to them. My plot sketches keep ending in disaster.
I've seen it thrown around that happily ever after is a must for this genre. Anyone have experience with successful unhappy endings in this genre? Anyone been docked points for sad endings?
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 8:38am |
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There are two ways to deal with romance, I was once told by an author in the Kindle Marketplace (where romance is a BIG moneymaker): you have HEA and HFN.
The end of your series must ALWAYS have an HEA. Period. It's what genre readers expect and are paying for. Your individual titles may end in an HFN (Happily For Now), as long as it comes with the hook for the next book's conflict. But that's along the lines of sales funnels and stuff I don't pretend to understand (yet). To this end, "romance" is not what you think it is. For example, many consumers might call Nicholas Sparks "romance" books. They are not. They're a unique beast unto themselves. "Romance," when you start asking about HEA and HFN, is solely a marketing/genre construct for selling your book that falls beyond the scope of people like Sparks and Gabaldon, because they don't follow those rules necessarily. If you're worried about romance in the scope of HEA and HFN as definitive of the genre, you may need a rewrite to avoid the disaster you indicate you keep coming up with. But this is NYCM where genres are flexible, and the points don't matter (because there are 4,000 of us, and what're the odds we're going to pass onto R2, am I right). So enjoy yourself, and write something romantic with a terrible tragedy ending. Rip out some hearts and love every minute of it. But if you're publishing? Yes, you need to look for HEA/HFN, but that's the only place where I've ever seen it mandated as a genre convention. |
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Auralia
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 8:49am |
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Thanks, this is helpful. I have been sensing that lack of congruity between romance as a literary genre/romantic classics (Romeo and Juliet for pity's sake) and romance as a marketing genre, if that makes sense.
I'd like to follow the genre rules to the extent that this is an exercise in conforming to a specific set of expectations, and that's part of the fun and the challenge of it, but I'll write the story that is writing itself and perhaps find a HHITE (Hopefully Happy in the End) to hint at somewhere =)
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:15am |
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I'm in your heat. Hi.
I can tell you right now that mine is not going to end happily. I'm also struggling with the romance thing. It's such a formulaic genre, and I'm determined to avoid the formula so my head doesn't explode. Might come to bite me in the butt, but I refuse to write something I don't love, so I'm going for it. Good luck. EEK!!!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:50am |
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9 out of 10 marriages end in divorce! If you can make a happy ending outa that you can steal my idea.
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Lookit There
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:00pm |
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I've seen plenty of "sad" romances over the years in the NYCM competitions, several of them scoring very high.
Don't confuse "romance" with "romantic comedy." I don't think an HEA is required, but the love story definitely needs to be central.
Edited by Lookit There - 28 Jan 2018 at 12:00pm |
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Auralia
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 12:58pm |
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I feel less alone now
*raises an imaginary glass in cheers* To writing things we love!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 3:24pm |
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Romance absolutely DOES NOT require a happy ending (at least not in NYCM). One of my best (and highest-scoring) stories in this contest is a romance where, because of social rules, ends with the guy marrying the girl's sister. I've read some other fantastic pieces here that definitely were not uplifting HEAs. Write the story that you need to write.
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Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 3:26pm |
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I'm in heat 37, which is also a romance. Feel like my story is a bad Lifetime movie plot. You know, one with Tori Spelling and Rob Lowe acting out a completely unrealistic storyline? Yeah, that's mine.
May the romance gods find favor with my pitiful offering.
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